Author Topic: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier & Instant Slide Processes.  (Read 34072 times)

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In 1981, Polaroid Japan sold a curious device called a Polaprinter Slide Copier. I have no idea how many years they did this, or even for the main reason you would need to copy slides to Polaroid prints - passport photographs? real estate prospects? client handouts? porn? production mock-ups?

I suppose all of the above and more...



What I do know though, in having boxes (and boxes) of my father's stock work, and family snaps stored under our futon, it was apparent the Polaprinter had an immediate application.



For the price of one pack of Polaroid film (expired, ID-UV), and 750yen postage, it was being investigated on my work bench. It has a few user controls, and its layout is purely functional - if only with a few 1980s' styling flourishes. Powder-coated blue aluminum body, moulded black plastic panels, with 1970s - 1980s off the shelf components such as the switches, LEDs, and trigger.

As no user manual came with it, and I was unable to source one reliably over the interweb either, I was compelled to undertake investigations one evening. It has a built-in rate adapter to allow it to support every voltage I can think of - 100VAC, 115VAC, 130VAC, 200VAC, 220VAC,  240VAC and 250VAC - all at 50 or 60Hz. A versatile machine. Whereas modern rate adaptable devices will use electronics to adapt, the Polaprinter uses a variable wound transformer set. What would have been an expensive proposition at the time. A standard kettle cord then plugs into the Polaprinter, blocking access to the rate adapter switch to ensure it is not changed when plugged in inadvertently.


The top of the case also provides an integrated carry handle.

Loading the film is the same as any usual pack-film camera. Though with the film back on the bottom of the Polaprinter, Polaroid have nicely rounded the rear of the body so the Polaprinter tips back smoothly onto its back. For testing, we loaded some ISO400 FujiFilm.





Turning the device on, a slide viewing lamp illuminates immediately. A quick investigation of the control below the viewer makes it apparent as the aspect ratio of a 35mm slide is not the same as a Polaroid print, the control allows you to see the chosen framing as you move the lever with a slide mounted. Two cammed feet inside the slide slot move in parallel so when the slide is dropped in the slot, so it takes the same framing position as chosen on the viewing lamp.




A set of metal plates is available to accept single-cut negatives if needed.

Body front has two controls 'Exposure' and 'Contrast'. The FujiFilm ISO400 test prints are grossly over-exposed at the max dark position, and tests with some ND gels confirm the Polaprinter is calibrated to use an approximate ISO range of perhaps 80 to 125.



The contrast knob is a curious function, as it is not electrical, but mechanical and perhaps adjusts the focus of the exposure lamp. While I think I've been able to see the difference using this control, I have left it mid-scale.



The green 'Go' LED in the trigger switch flashes when the charging system has cycled in a few seconds after turning on. So after much messing around it is ready to go. Pushing the trigger results in a nice SNAP! and a flash from inside. White tab / yellow tab use as per normal pack-film triggers a microswitch in the film pack holder and the first (bottom) timing LED illuminates. The 30 / 60 SEC. switch being used to select an appropriate timing interval.



At the selected time, the LED goes out, and a 1980s piezoelectric buzzer sounds. With three development LEDs, the Polaprinter can time the development  of three prints in parallel. Results? Fantastic! These all with the expired ID-UV above:







More tests with FP-100 and some expired Type-665 perhaps to follow... See ya! Skj.

« Last Edit: February 01, 2010, 11:29:56 AM by Skorj »

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier.
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 03:05:56 AM »
Wow, that is one crazy piece, Mark! I don't remember seeing these for sale here in
the States...the "Polaprinter" we got here in the early 80s was similar in appearance to a Daylab. It also used standard Polaroid pack films, and the quality was about the same as what you have presented here.  By the way, do you know if Polaroid's 35mm instant slide films were marketed in Japan?

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier.
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2010, 12:16:20 PM »
By the way, do you know if Polaroid's 35mm instant slide films were marketed in Japan?

This thing? We have a few laying about...



Not sure it uses this though:


Or this:


I think Sean knows this stuff, and a few other variations I am sure... Skj.
« Last Edit: February 04, 2010, 01:53:25 PM by Skorj »

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier.
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2010, 07:34:33 PM »
The processor used the following now defunct instant slide film:-

PolaChrome CS
PolaChrome HCP
PolaPan CT
PolaGraph HC
PolaBlue CN

The craziest was the PolaBlue for charts and type-set with a crazy ISO 4, the lights I used on the model was cooking flesh. Will lash up some pics soon of what I used back in the day when it was on my radar... It was great to just shoot and develop slides on the fly and hit a Polaroid slide printer and have a photo to chew on... That was table top photography at its best for moi.

Update: The HR 2000 if I remember rightly was a hi-res device that produced 35mm slides from a computer.

Update: Found an out of date film with slides, alas cannot find the processor...!

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier & Instant Slide Processes.
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 01:32:50 AM »
Yeah...PolaBlue was great fun...oh to have it in 4x5...Impossible Project, are you listening?

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier & Instant Slide Processes.
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2010, 03:47:35 PM »
I know I always wanted to try out those great 35mm instant slides. I can't remember which one it was but one of the Polacolor films produced images which were very reminiscence of the old Autochromes.

Now, this is another good project for the Impossible Project.
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Polaroid Instant Colour and Black & White Slides
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 09:31:53 PM »

Dali lips



Whitefriars Vase



Cocoa Hue in PolaBlue [Longchamps]



Cocoa Hue in PolaBlue [Philippe Starck XO]

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Fuji Image Transfer
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 08:48:27 PM »
Skorj:

As you asked about my image transfer technique with the Fuji FP-100 I thought it was best to drop it here with the Polaprinter:

At hand a pair of  scissors, hard roller, safelight and paper of choice which I will go into later.

Darken the room and keep the safelight away from the action. Once I pull the image from the printer I've got 16 to 18 seconds to cut away the edge of the print that still holds the chemical residue (too messy when left in situ). Peel and drop the negative side onto the awaiting paper and roll hard and evenly for 40-50 seconds.  All the rest can be done with the lights on and after around another 30 seconds depending how I want the image to look, peel away....

Check out this link also:-

http://www.freestylephoto.biz/pdf/Fujifilm_CableRelease_May_2008.pdf

Now paper of choice for moi is Fabriano 5, 300 gram hot press which is very smooth being 50% cotton and watercolour. It can be bought as a pad (Fabriano RKB Fat Pad) and that way cost effective at 2 prints a page. A lot of peeps like Arches 88 but I didn't get on with it... The whites have a yellow cast but I can live with that.

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier & Instant Slide Processes.
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2010, 06:36:42 AM »
Wow. Glorious results, and something I will have to try myself. Though,  I suspect you are an expert by looking at these too. Very nice. Thanks for the description!

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier & Instant Slide Processes.
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 06:29:49 PM »
PROJECT A BETTER IMAGE

These samples of Polaroid instant 35mm slides have been properly exposed and processed. Project them to compare with your own instant slides - then keep them for future reference. If you need help, call the nearest Polaroid office. [not].

Found the below slides with an information sheet. Why did Fuji not do Instant Slides, I miss  them... Nostalgia...









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Love that color!

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Looks more fun than excel 2007

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Looks more fun than excel 2007
Anything is more fun than Excel 2007 :)
It doesn't even have easter eggs to play with anymore!
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This is way too cool!!! Endless possibilities... thanks for sharing this review Skorj. Still I haven?t seen any in ebay...

Miller, nice results sthere, rampant colors!!!

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Thanks tkmedia, did not know about that... and there are few of them on ebay. Still do not know what it might be useful for... but it?s cool ;D

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Re: Review - Polaroid Polaprinter 3510 Slide Copier & Instant Slide Processes.
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2010, 05:12:17 AM »
I have one of those!  And 2 Vivitar Slide Printers.  Need to dust them off and use them again

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Hi, sorry to bump this old topic but i'm wondering if its possible to take a copy of a 35mm negative, shoot it onto fp-100c and then remove the goop off the negative of the negative to reveal a sexy positive.
Just a thought that might be incentive for me to get one of these funky machines..

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Hi, sorry to bump this old topic but i'm wondering if its possible to take a copy of a 35mm negative, shoot it onto fp-100c and then remove the goop off the negative of the negative to reveal a sexy positive.
Just a thought that might be incentive for me to get one of these funky machines..

Yes. This is the reason this machine was made - goop negs aside, which flow just as they would from a camera. Good luck!

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Do you have any examples of this being done Skj?
Dunno if it has any value though...just seems to me like extra work now that I think about it.. what would be the point of it all!

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Do you have any examples of this being done Skj?
Dunno if it has any value though...just seems to me like extra work now that I think about it.. what would be the point of it all!

Examples? Sure! As per above:



The process following the print is the same as when you normally recover a neg from FP-100C. No change. You can even tweak the exposures to suit the neg multiple times. You can also handle and prepare the negs at your leisure. Both of these points make a clear advantage of shooting FP-100C in the field, handling negs until you get home at repeatable and adjustable exposure settings. Skj.

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Thanks for that! I love that photo, its great!

What I was actually talking about was bleaching the black backing off the negative.
So in essence the 35mm negative -> fp-100c -> remove backing -> large slide?

Im shooting with a Mamiya Universal at the moment with the 3.5 lens after reading your review!, thats been a real treat to shoot with, thanks for the review as well :) (Would you happen to know where i could get the 2.8 lens? or any connections?)

Thanks!

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What I was actually talking about was bleaching the black backing off the negative.
So in essence the 35mm negative -> fp-100c -> remove backing -> large slide?
Exactly.

Im shooting with a Mamiya Universal at the moment with the 3.5 lens after reading your review!, thats been a real treat to shoot with, thanks for the review as well :) (Would you happen to know where i could get the 2.8 lens? or any connections?)
The 100mm f2.8 is a damn nice lens! As to where to get one, I can vouch for Japan Exposures, Mijonju, and Japan Camera Hunter - some details can be found here: http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=2860.0.

Good luck! Skj.

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Thanks heaps!
I'll message them immediately, I've just been looking on eBay recently and its almost impossible to find one!
How much did you pay for yours? I'm having difficulty finding the value of the lens...

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Getting one of these is really tempting me, as I'll be able to make analog prints of my slides to put in my photo album...
Stop finding all this cool stuff, Skorj!

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I'm in. Just bought a similar contraption on eBay. I like the idea of using it to make goop (or otherwise) negs from non slide 35mm negs.


Mechnik+ Cie Photosystems Rapid Image 205 Slide Printer by Ed Wenn, on Flickr


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I have one of those Polaprinters. What an angular beast!