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Title: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 05, 2017, 05:38:05 PM
http://www.kodakalaris.com/en-us/about/press-releases/2016/kodak-alaris-reintroduces-iconic-ektachrome-still-film (http://www.kodakalaris.com/en-us/about/press-releases/2016/kodak-alaris-reintroduces-iconic-ektachrome-still-film)

Who knows what the pictures will actually look like ... I doubt it will be exactly like any of the previous emulsions. But in-date Ektachrome?? Yay!!!!

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Kodak Alaris Reintroduces Iconic EKTACHROME Still Film

Beloved Chrome Slide Film to be Available in Fourth Quarter 2017

ROCHESTER, N.Y. and LAS VEGAS, NV January 5, 2017 – Kodak Alaris announced at CES 2017 that it would be reintroducing the iconic KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Color Reversal Film for professional and enthusiast photography. The new EKTACHROME film will support 135-36x camera formats and be available in fourth quarter 2017.

KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film has a distinctive look that was the choice for generations of photographers before being discontinued in 2012. The film, known for its extremely fine grain, clean colors, great tones and contrasts, became iconic in no small part due the extensive use of slide film by the National Geographic Magazine over several decades.

Resurgence in the popularity of analog photography has created demand for new and old film products alike. Sales of professional photographic films have been steadily rising over the last few years, with professionals and enthusiasts rediscovering the artistic control offered by manual processes and the creative satisfaction of a physical end product.

“Film is our heritage and we remain committed to meeting the evolving needs of today’s film shooters,” said Dennis Olbrich, President – Kodak Alaris Imaging Paper, Photo Chemicals and Film. “We’ve been listening to the needs and desires of photographers over the past several years and wanted to bring back a color reversal film. In assessing the opportunity, EKTACHROME was the clear choice.”

KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME is a color positive film, also known as “reversal,” “slide,” or “transparency” film. Unlike all of the other KODAK PROFESSIONAL Films available today, which are color negative films, EKTACHROME generates a positive image that can be viewed or projected once it is exposed and processed. This makes it ideal for high-resolution projection or presentations. It is also well suited for scanning and printing onto a range of professional grade photographic media.

EKTACHROME Film is developed using the E6 process, available in many professional labs today. Coincident with the Q4 launch, the KODAK PROFESSIONAL Film App will be updated to include Professional Labs where E6 processing is available in addition to labs where color negative and B&W film processing are currently featured.

Also at CES, The Eastman Kodak Company announced the reintroduction of KODAK EKTACHROME Super 8 Film to support the adoption of its recently introduced KODAK Super 8 movie camera. Eastman Kodak will produce KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Color Reversal Film for distribution by Kodak Alaris. The combined scale of EKTACHROME Super 8 and still film products creates a viable and sustainable business opportunity for both companies.

About Kodak Alaris
Kodak Alaris is a company that is passionate about using technology to transform organizations and improve people's lives across the planet. From our document scanners and intelligent state-of-the-art software and services that power some of the world's largest companies, to our photographic paper production, printing kiosks and suite of consumer apps, we help people capture and connect with the emotional moments that define all our lives. We're on a mission to unlock the power of images and information for the world. We work behind the scenes, making the connections, pushing the boundaries of technology and helping consumers to make sense of and exploit the ever-expanding volume of data that is the hallmark of the 21st century.

© 2017 Kodak Alaris Inc.
The Kodak trademark and trade dress are used under license from Eastman Kodak Company.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on January 05, 2017, 05:47:51 PM
Checks calendar. Sees it's still January and I'd not hibernated until April.

Wow. Who'da thunk it? Shame it's not Kodachrome, but still, I'll be getting myself some of that when it comes out as I've been meaning to do E6 for a while.

Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: thatguychad on January 05, 2017, 05:49:34 PM
Very cool! Too bad they haven't committed to 120, but I'll take 35mm. It looks like we'll see it in Super 8, too.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jharr on January 05, 2017, 06:29:04 PM
As a fan of Ektachrome that expired 30 years ago while sitting in a cardboard box in the Tazadit Airport, I am ambivalent about the availability of this film, but as a general film enthusiast, I am ecstatic about Kodak resurrecting a defunct transparency stock! Heck, if they cut some 4x5 sheets, I might even buy some!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 05, 2017, 07:21:50 PM
As a fan of Ektachrome that expired 30 years ago while sitting in a cardboard box in the Tazadit Airport, I am ambivalent about the availability of this film, but as a general film enthusiast, I am ecstatic about Kodak resurrecting a defunct transparency stock! Heck, if they cut some 4x5 sheets, I might even buy some!

You are much more committed to 1920's "Sahara Desert Special" film than I am ;D If they can keep the price down to say, $9 or $10 for a roll of 135-36, then I'm going with this newfangled stuff. Hey, maybe it'll even drive down the prices of the Sahara Desert Specials :D
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on January 05, 2017, 07:37:05 PM
I am super stoked about this.  Been missing Ektachrome a lot!!!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 05, 2017, 09:21:35 PM
I will be stocking up on both 135 and Super 8.  I just shot my last cartridge of Super 8 last year.  I hope I can eventually get it in Regular 8mm as well. 
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MacArron on January 05, 2017, 09:47:53 PM
Good notice to film users for sure!!

I never used it back on my film days (before the digital era) but funnily enough I have a few Ektachrome 64 in 220 format and I started shooting them this fall. Results are consistent and colours very precise, counting these rolls expired in 2004...

Glad to see this is moving forward :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 05, 2017, 10:52:18 PM
I've shot only 2 rolls of Ekta. And I got them both as free samples from the days where they were still giving them away...
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: hookstrapped on January 05, 2017, 10:58:38 PM
I'm pretty excited about this.  Ektachrome E100VS was my favorite xpro film

https://medium.com/vantage/before-the-flood-14b5488028f3

I'm curious where this sits on the E100G - E100VS spectrum
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: astrobeck on January 05, 2017, 11:15:15 PM
Today has been odd...
Ektachrome is making a comeback and Craftsman (Sears) has sold to Stanley/ black & decker.

They are not related but it just makes me think easy come easy go...
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 05, 2017, 11:35:11 PM
Ektachrome is making a cimeback and Craftsman (Sears) has sold to Stanley/ black & decker.
Yeah, I learned about the Craftsman thing a few weeks ago. Dad works at Sears in the hardware dept. and nobody in there knows what's going on with the place.
When I think about all the tools he bought at too high a price just for their lifetime guarantee, it kinda makes me grind my teeth a bit.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 06, 2017, 12:40:13 AM
Ektachrome is making a cimeback and Craftsman (Sears) has sold to Stanley/ black & decker.
Yeah, I learned about the Craftsman thing a few weeks ago. Dad works at Sears in the hardware dept. and nobody in there knows what's going on with the place.
When I think about all the tools he bought at too high a price just for their lifetime guarantee, it kinda makes me grind my teeth a bit.

They are closing several stores in the US including the one I go to.

https://www.scribd.com/document/335803321/Store-Closing-List#from_embed (https://www.scribd.com/document/335803321/Store-Closing-List#from_embed)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 06, 2017, 08:46:51 PM
Right now nobody seems to be able to get any information from Sears Canada.
It seems their management makes extensive use of the chaos theories!
There's rumors that they will renovate the stores, close stores, open brand new super stores in hip powercenters... if they could just make up their mind and be clear with their employees.
Then, there's rumors that Stanley will keep on making Craftsman tools but just sell them through other outlets like Canadian Tire, which to me is quite unlikely since Canadian Tire has been promoting their own house brand tools (MasterCraft) for close to 30 years...

I didn't know until recently that Sears was owner of the Kmart chain. As strange as it may sound, I'm more nostalgic to see these go than anything else even if all Kmart stores closed here in the 1980's... I'll miss that "Attention Kmart shoppers" call.

But retail store wise, things look pretty limited here in Canada. The market is dominated on the low end by Walmart and the high end by The Bay... with nothing in between in terms of nationwide chains.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Jeff Warden on January 06, 2017, 08:51:47 PM
I'll definitely get some E6 chemistry and give it a try.  Slides are fun even if you don't project them.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 06, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
I didn't know until recently that Sears was owner of the Kmart chain. As strange as it may sound, I'm more nostalgic to see these go than anything else even if all Kmart stores closed here in the 1980's... I'll miss that "Attention Kmart shoppers" call.

Kmart purchased Sears back in 2005 as both stores were having trouble competing with Walmart.  Now it's just one big corporation struggling against Walmart instead of two.  Kmart has been selling Craftsman tools since they merged.  I worked at a Kmart store one summer when I was in college, that store is now a Walmart. 
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 06, 2017, 09:48:48 PM
Long gone are the times when Sears-Roebuck had the world's biggest warehouse in Chicago...
Long gone are the days when they built the world's highest skyscraper too...
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 07, 2017, 07:01:37 PM
This short run magazine called Kodachrome is going to be offered later this month.  It looks interesting but I'm not sure how to subscribe to it yet, unless you go to CES in Las Vegas.

http://www.kodak.com/corp/Blog/Blog_Post/?contentId=4295000320 (http://www.kodak.com/corp/Blog/Blog_Post/?contentId=4295000320)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on January 08, 2017, 08:00:49 PM
That Kodachrome magazine sounds interesting.  I've actually been having a chuckle at some of the other sites mentioning the release of Ektachrome.  DPReview has been the most entertaining.  You'd think Kodak was coming to steal all their digital cameras with the comments  about it being ridiculous, for hipsters, posers, etc.  I never thought a roll of film could bring out so much hate from some people...lol.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 08, 2017, 08:48:10 PM
Haters will always be haters...
And everytime I see someone with an I Haters shirt, I have a hard time believing that they actually mean what they are advertising.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 08, 2017, 09:35:48 PM
I hate lovers  >:(

 ;)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jharr on January 09, 2017, 01:10:41 AM
I hate Ilford for still making photo papers. What are they trying to do, make my computer screen obsolete!!?? And don't get me started on paper books! The economy is teetering on the razor's edge and these people are trying to bring it down with their old school technology!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 09, 2017, 07:40:46 PM
Kodachrome?!?!

https://petapixel.com/2017/01/09/kodak-investigating-take-bring-back-kodachrome/ (https://petapixel.com/2017/01/09/kodak-investigating-take-bring-back-kodachrome/)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 09, 2017, 08:54:39 PM
Well I'll be darned...
If there's one film stock I believed would never come back, it's Kodachrome... If they bring it back, they'll have to take care of the processing themselves as it's too fiddly to let it out to most photolabs...
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: 02Pilot on January 09, 2017, 09:06:04 PM
I'm quite certain that any new stock - Ektachrome, Kodachrome, or otherwise - will be reformulated. I would strongly suspect that a revived Kodachrome would have to be E-6 compatible for it to have even the slightest chance of coming to fruition.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 09, 2017, 09:20:29 PM
I'm quite certain that any new stock - Ektachrome, Kodachrome, or otherwise - will be reformulated. I would strongly suspect that a revived Kodachrome would have to be E-6 compatible for it to have even the slightest chance of coming to fruition.

I completely agree with you. I can't see any way that they'd bring back K14 processing (I believe a lot of those chemicals are now illegal/scheduled?). But anything called "Kodachrome" that ISN'T K14 is not Kodachrome, says I. An E6 process "Kodachrome" would be essentially the same as a Lightroom "Kodachrome" preset ... something that imitates the look through a completely different process.

However I am still very excited by this new Ektachrome and I can't wait to see how it looks xpro'd. That said, if the old emulsions (particularly E100VS) look significantly better, then I'll continue to scour ebay and largely ignore the new emulsion :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on January 09, 2017, 09:54:57 PM
Does investigating what it would take to bring back Kodachrome include phoning Dwayne's Photo and asking them if they still had the old Kodachrome developing machinery?

Yeah. If they can bring back Kodachrome properly and not just something a bit like it but not the same, I would love that. Last year a friend gave me some old slides from 40odd years ago and asked me to scan them for her. As soon as I looked at them, I thought "God, I miss Kodachrome".

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Fingers crossed, anyhow.

Also, if Kodak are planning on bringing other old films back, HIE HIE HIE HIE HIE !!!!!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 09, 2017, 10:33:06 PM
I thought Kodachrome was all about the dyes they used in the processing, I would think that would be the most important ingredient if they bring it back.  I believe Dwayne's scrapped the Kodachrome equipment. 
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on January 09, 2017, 10:37:31 PM
Put me down for 100 rolls of K64.  My favourite film of all time
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: astrobeck on January 09, 2017, 10:41:16 PM
I honestly don't have a problem with retro-reformulated films as long as they have the same look as the old stuff just as long as they don't add corn syrup to it...(sorry, that's just me nit picking instant mashed potatoes which has nothing to do with anything at the moment)
Anyway, I'm happy to see Ektachrome come back, and if that goes well, then having Kodachrome would be fun, but I don't really think it's a smart move.

If Kodak brought back HIE, that would make my day....but I'm just one of probably too few that think that way.


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Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: hookstrapped on January 10, 2017, 12:03:20 AM
I honestly don't have a problem with retro-reformulated films as long as they have the same look as the old stuff just as long as they don't add corn syrup to it...(sorry, that's just me nit picking instant mashed potatoes which has nothing to do with anything at the moment)
Anyway, I'm happy to see Ektachrome come back, and if that goes well, then having Kodachrome would be fun, but I don't really think it's a smart move.

If Kodak brought back HIE, that would make my day....but I'm just one of probably too few that think that way.


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I agree. I don't know that the color palette and look is inextricably tied to the chemistry. I want it for the look, within all the wonderful parameters of film, not because it brings back an eccentric chemical process.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on January 10, 2017, 12:07:46 AM
I honestly don't have a problem with retro-reformulated films as long as they have the same look as the old stuff just as long as they don't add corn syrup to it...(sorry, that's just me nit picking instant mashed potatoes which has nothing to do with anything at the moment)

Don't they put corn syrup in everything these days, why not film?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on January 10, 2017, 12:12:35 AM
With Kodachrome, wasn't the look because the colour dyes were put in during processing rather than being embedded in the emulsion? I was always intrigued by the way one side of the slide had a kind of bas-relief effect on it, which you just didn't get on stuff like Agfachrome, which I shot most of the time in the 70s because it was cheaper.


I've avoided instant mash since the stuff the martians made.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 10, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
I honestly don't have a problem with retro-reformulated films as long as they have the same look as the old stuff just as long as they don't add corn syrup to it...(sorry, that's just me nit picking instant mashed potatoes which has nothing to do with anything at the moment)
Anyway, I'm happy to see Ektachrome come back, and if that goes well, then having Kodachrome would be fun, but I don't really think it's a smart move.

If Kodak brought back HIE, that would make my day....but I'm just one of probably too few that think that way.


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I agree. I don't know that the color palette and look is inextricably tied to the chemistry. I want it for the look, within all the wonderful parameters of film, not because it brings back an eccentric chemical process.

You know what? You have a good point, and you've made me change my mind. I DON'T want any old emulsion to make a comeback. I can just use a Lightroom preset, which, as I posted before, is basically the equivalent of a new emulsion that just emulates the old look. I'll shoot Gold (for the "wonderful parameters of film") and apply the Kodachrome preset in Lightroom and boom! I just saved Kodak thousands of hours and millions of dollars trying to recreate Kodachrome as an E6 emulsion :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jharr on January 10, 2017, 01:37:55 AM

You know what? You have a good point, and you've made me change my mind. I DON'T want any old emulsion to make a comeback. I can just use a Lightroom preset, which, as I posted before, is basically the equivalent of a new emulsion that just emulates the old look. I'll shoot Gold (for the "wonderful parameters of film") and apply the Kodachrome preset in Lightroom and boom! I just saved Kodak thousands of hours and millions of dollars trying to recreate Kodachrome as an E6 emulsion :)

Boom indeed!

Mods!! Throw this digi-bum outta here!  :P
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Kai-san on January 10, 2017, 07:07:26 PM

You know what? You have a good point, and you've made me change my mind. I DON'T want any old emulsion to make a comeback. I can just use a Lightroom preset, which, as I posted before, is basically the equivalent of a new emulsion that just emulates the old look. I'll shoot Gold (for the "wonderful parameters of film") and apply the Kodachrome preset in Lightroom and boom! I just saved Kodak thousands of hours and millions of dollars trying to recreate Kodachrome as an E6 emulsion :)

Boom indeed!

Mods!! Throw this digi-bum outta here!  :P

I agree, we do not want Kodachrome instagram! Whatever happens we have to give Kodak some credit for their daring. Launching a brand new Super 8 camera last year really shows their guts!  8)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 10, 2017, 08:42:24 PM
I must say that somehow this all confuses me a bit.
You have a product that sells. You pull it out of the market because it doesn't produce a ton of profits. People notice this and start wanting it more because of the rarity you just created. You wait a few years and then reintroduce it in smaller batches...

What if Fuji pulling out of the peel apart market and not wanting to sell the machinery, Kodak pulling out Ektachrome and many of those other cancelled products were just a marketing ploy to drive prices up?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 10, 2017, 09:18:06 PM
What if Fuji pulling out of the peel apart market and not wanting to sell the machinery, Kodak pulling out Ektachrome and many of those other cancelled products were just a marketing ploy to drive prices up?

I have no problem with this in the sense that I'll happily pay, say, $20 a pack for FP100C instead of the $9 a pack they were charging. I do not, however, like this period of not having any current production FP100C :D
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on January 10, 2017, 09:53:10 PM
I don't blame you.
I still have a bit of FP100B (1½ packs) that I'm treating like if it was the last drop of water on the planet!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: hookstrapped on January 10, 2017, 10:38:03 PM
With Kodachrome, wasn't the look because the colour dyes were put in during processing rather than being embedded in the emulsion? I was always intrigued by the way one side of the slide had a kind of bas-relief effect on it, which you just didn't get on stuff like Agfachrome, which I shot most of the time in the 70s because it was cheaper.


I've avoided instant mash since the stuff the martians made.

That's my question about whether the process was integral to the look. I have a hard time buying a discernible difference from the dyes being added during processing versus being in the emulsion, unless somehow the process alters or puts parameters on the dyes you can use that makes its look otherwise unachievable.

I doubt that, though. It's gonna be different anyway but it's cool for a new (old) film to shoot for that look.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 10, 2017, 10:46:29 PM
With Kodachrome, wasn't the look because the colour dyes were put in during processing rather than being embedded in the emulsion? I was always intrigued by the way one side of the slide had a kind of bas-relief effect on it, which you just didn't get on stuff like Agfachrome, which I shot most of the time in the 70s because it was cheaper.


I've avoided instant mash since the stuff the martians made.

That's my question about whether the process was integral to the look. I have a hard time buying a discernible difference from the dyes being added during processing versus being in the emulsion, unless somehow the process alters or puts parameters on the dyes you can use that makes its look otherwise unachievable.

I doubt that, though. It's gonna be different anyway but it's cool for a new (old) film to shoot for that look.

If that were the case (ie, process doesn't matter), wouldn't Kodak have come up with an E6 Kodachrome in the 80's or whenever they stopped production of Kodachrome, just based on its popularity?

So many questions, nobody has the answers, all that matters is what it LOOKS like.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jharr on January 11, 2017, 12:27:06 AM
I'm fairly sure that they could come up with an E-6 look-alike for Kodachrome, but the question is whether anyone can find a model that looks like this when photographed with it!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/56/f4/a5/56f4a5b47563107fd2d98618016e5304.jpg)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on January 11, 2017, 03:22:32 AM
I'm fairly sure that they could come up with an E-6 look-alike for Kodachrome, but the question is whether anyone can find a model that looks like this when photographed with it!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/56/f4/a5/56f4a5b47563107fd2d98618016e5304.jpg)

What an incredible photo...and subject
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: hookstrapped on January 11, 2017, 11:16:07 AM
I wonder if it'll be shot on film...

http://variety.com/2016/film/news/jason-sudeikis-ed-harris-kodachrome-1201768359/ (http://variety.com/2016/film/news/jason-sudeikis-ed-harris-kodachrome-1201768359/)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Ed Wenn on January 14, 2017, 10:35:48 PM
Wow! This is almost like the perfect Filmwasters thread. Some hater loving and lover hating. Becky throwing in random comments about hardware and corn syrup. Gratuitous, but gladly received, Liz Taylor appearance. Some speculation about chemistry and dyes....all nicely topped off with some Fujifilm bashing (BRING BACK PEEL APART FILM YOU NUMPTIES!!!).

Thank you :-)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 14, 2017, 10:49:52 PM
Happy to be of service, Ed :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: John Robison on January 15, 2017, 03:48:20 PM
That Kodachrome magazine sounds interesting.  I've actually been having a chuckle at some of the other sites mentioning the release of Ektachrome.  DPReview has been the most entertaining.  You'd think Kodak was coming to steal all their digital cameras with the comments  about it being ridiculous, for hipsters, posers, etc.  I never thought a roll of film could bring out so much hate from some people...lol.
Finally got time to read through this thread and this comment brought a chuckle. I've noticed the same thing since the early 00's
'Film is dead' intones someone on the photography forums who fancy's himself as a great wise one. Another will pile on, 'I moved to digital and never looked back!' These folks seem to feel that anyone who still uses film somehow diminishes their choice to use digital. The more they have spent on their kit often affects their level of outrage that someone still prefers and uses film. This is especially true if the film user has put together his formally top of the line 35mm SLR kit for little more than beer money. Another thing that they are ticked off about, the film users kit won't depreciate like a falling brick. And, for a few dollars film users can buy 36 brand new sensors, either monochrome or color.
They need have no worry, Kodak will not steal their digital cameras. Time and background radiation and failed electronics will take care of that.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 15, 2017, 04:41:46 PM
I just noticed that my film stock is declining, so I jumped on ebay for some cheap film purchasing. I noticed that NOS Ektachrome seems to be more plentiful and cheaper than the last time I replenished my stock. Can't help but think that this announcement is the reason why. So, lovers of expired Ektachrome, time to troll ebay! :D
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: moominsean on January 18, 2017, 03:05:21 AM
I have quite a bit of Ektachrome and slide film in general. I think I probably have 50 boxes of some kind of Fuji 4x5 slide film. I hate self developing slide film, though. Too much continuous agitation and much more sensitive to temperature changes than negative film.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on January 18, 2017, 04:51:32 AM
I always xpro in C41  ;D
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Jeff Warden on January 18, 2017, 01:40:01 PM
Does cross processing in c-41 ruin the chemistry, or can you continue using it on negative film as usual afterwards?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jharr on January 18, 2017, 03:53:56 PM
Does cross processing in c-41 ruin the chemistry, or can you continue using it on negative film as usual afterwards?
It has no detrimental effect on the chemistry. You can continue using it as usual for CN or x-pro films.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Jeff Warden on January 18, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
Does cross processing in c-41 ruin the chemistry, or can you continue using it on negative film as usual afterwards?
It has no detrimental effect on the chemistry. You can continue using it as usual for CN or x-pro films.

Thanks.  I have some expired Astia/Velvia in the freezer and was hesitating spending money on fresh chemistry for expired films.  Onward!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Iaeaix on February 07, 2017, 08:23:12 PM
I hope this will better the availability of slide film processing service.
I have some rolls of Slide film which I wanted to "waste" but I know I won't find a place to process them nearby.


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Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on February 07, 2017, 09:30:37 PM
I hope this will better the availability of slide film processing service.
I have some rolls of Slide film which I wanted to "waste" but I know I won't find a place to process them nearby.


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I don't know where you're located but there are plenty of mail order options in the U.S.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Iaeaix on March 06, 2017, 05:22:19 PM
I hope this will better the availability of slide film processing service.
I have some rolls of Slide film which I wanted to "waste" but I know I won't find a place to process them nearby.


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I don't know where you're located but there are plenty of mail order options in the U.S.

I'm in Canada, not so lucky :(


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Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on March 06, 2017, 09:20:15 PM
Well... if you want to X-pro the film, there's a trick.
You take an old can of something like Kodak Gold and you re-spool the slide film in it before dropping it at the drugstore for 1 week processing.
It goes to a big lab where the workers won't really notice since the film is machine extracted and they always have fresh chems...

Just out of curiosity, what part of Canada are you in?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: SLVR on March 06, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
There is still borealis in montreal and I believe there is an E6 processor on the west coast in vancouver as well.

Toronto there is Downtown camera which will send out your film to borealis but I believe there is a smaller lab doing small runs in the city. Cant remember the name off the top of my head.

I think the REAL trick is to download some of my film lablels I designed and stick those over top of your E6 canister for some cheap xpro.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5443/6911687802_d5077897e6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bwLcZ5)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on March 06, 2017, 10:33:54 PM
I know Borealis are good. They also process all formats.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: SLVR on March 07, 2017, 12:35:17 AM
yeah borealis does good work. If I dive into ektachrome when it gets released I'll be sending my film over there
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on September 13, 2017, 10:19:39 PM
Finally, there seems to be some movement on this story.

https://petapixel.com/2017/09/13/return-kodak-ektachrome-film-nigh/ (https://petapixel.com/2017/09/13/return-kodak-ektachrome-film-nigh/)
and
http://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/09/12/kodak-working-towards-bringing-ektachrome-back-market-2018/ (http://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/09/12/kodak-working-towards-bringing-ektachrome-back-market-2018/)

(but don't read the one on dpreview, it's full of people who would have cheerfully murdered every horse on the planet the moment the car was invented)

They're working on market testing by the end of the year, and full availability in 2018, with Kodak (NY) making the film and selling it in super 8 , and Kodak Alaris packaging and selling the 35mm film.

So things are afoot. Maybe I should start thinking about getting some second-hand 'rondex' mags for my old slide projector and make 2018 the year of the transparency?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on September 13, 2017, 10:34:13 PM
Or do like I did, I have a Kodak carousel with the stack loader accessory :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on September 15, 2017, 03:36:50 PM
It will come back for medium format too, according to a source working in Rochester.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: hookstrapped on September 15, 2017, 05:04:12 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on September 15, 2017, 06:44:53 PM
Finally, there seems to be some movement on this story.

https://petapixel.com/2017/09/13/return-kodak-ektachrome-film-nigh/ (https://petapixel.com/2017/09/13/return-kodak-ektachrome-film-nigh/)
and
http://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/09/12/kodak-working-towards-bringing-ektachrome-back-market-2018/ (http://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/09/12/kodak-working-towards-bringing-ektachrome-back-market-2018/)

(but don't read the one on dpreview, it's full of people who would have cheerfully murdered every horse on the planet the moment the car was invented)



OMG...that is one of the funniest statements I've seen in a long time.  That said, cosidering DPReview's trolls and fanboys....also one of the most accurate!

I've got a bunch of Ektrachrome 100G in my freezer that I think I will start using as a way of celebrating!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on November 08, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
New Ektachrome being examined on the coating chamber. Shot on old Ektachrome.

(https://image.ibb.co/cErpAw/Capture.png)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on November 15, 2017, 03:22:58 AM
I talked to someone at Adorama who seemed to be super into the new Ektachrome (as opposed to the guy I talked to last week at Adorama who couldn't care less about it and gave me no information about it) and he (super-into it guy, not couldn't-care-less guy) said that the initial release date was sometime in November, then it was pushed to December, and right now it is "first quarter 2018" :( I hope the delay is because they're MAKING IT MORE AWESOME  >:(
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on November 15, 2017, 05:12:37 AM
New Ektachrome being examined on the coating chamber. Shot on old Ektachrome.

(https://image.ibb.co/cErpAw/Capture.png)

Where did you find this photo?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on November 15, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
There's a podcast about it now:-

https://soundcloud.com/the-kodakery/update-from-our-film-factory-on-kodak-ektachrome

Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on November 15, 2017, 03:56:48 PM
(https://image.ibb.co/c3kAa6/Capture.png)

First production batch of Ektachrome on the big coating machine, yesterday 11/14. This batch will be tested internally at Kodak, and if it meets the standards, regular production will begin shortly after.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on February 21, 2018, 02:21:29 PM
Important announcement from Kodak this Friday. They are hinting to "pushing" on their IG account. A lot of photo people that I follow are suggesting that it could be Tmax 3200 coming back as well.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jojonas~ on February 21, 2018, 06:52:07 PM
on ther tweet stick too https://twitter.com/KodakProFilmBiz

Do you even push? Film is back in the fast lane etc etc. latest bit was a bw gif of a man running
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on February 21, 2018, 09:03:58 PM
on ther tweet stick too https://twitter.com/KodakProFilmBiz

Do you even push? Film is back in the fast lane etc etc. latest bit was a bw gif of a man running

High-Speed reference, I'm assuming?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on February 22, 2018, 07:00:48 PM
It is going to be a *new* B&W film coming up on Friday, according to a certain source in Rochester.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on February 22, 2018, 08:55:52 PM
High speed duplicating film?  ;D ;D ;D
(for the lesser geeks, it was a 1000 ISO film that was a predecessor to the Tmax p3200)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jojonas~ on February 23, 2018, 09:32:51 AM
It is going to be a *new* B&W film coming up on Friday, according to a certain source in Rochester.
totally new? radical!  8)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on February 23, 2018, 10:33:05 AM
TMAX 3200
https://twitter.com/KodakProFilmBiz/status/966979709643952129 (https://twitter.com/KodakProFilmBiz/status/966979709643952129)

also down this page: http://imaging.kodakalaris.com/professional-photographers/photographers/professional-films (http://imaging.kodakalaris.com/professional-photographers/photographers/professional-films)


Edit: Ilford have made a witty reposte https://twitter.com/ILFORDPhoto/status/967003621094289409 (https://twitter.com/ILFORDPhoto/status/967003621094289409)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: jojonas~ on February 23, 2018, 10:44:39 AM
Kodak Alaris Revives KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX P3200 Film / TMZ


Multi-Speed B&W Film to be Available in March, 2018

ROCHESTER, N.Y.  February 23, 2018 – Kodak Alaris announced today that it is bringing back KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX P3200 Film / TMZ, a multi-speed panchromatic black-and-white negative film. While the nominal film speed of P3200 TMZ is ISO 800, the “P” means it’s designed to be push processed to EI 3200 or higher.  This film excels when shooting in low light or when capturing fast action.   It is ideally suited for handheld street scene photography, night work, and in dimly lit venues where you can’t use flash.

“It’s no secret that we’ve been looking for opportunities to expand our portfolio” said Dennis Olbrich, President – Kodak Alaris Paper, Photo Chemicals and Film. “Darkroom photography is making a comeback, and B&W Film sales are clearly on a positive trajectory. Given these very encouraging market trends, we believe P3200 TMZ will be a great addition to our lineup”.

Kodak Alaris plans to offer KODAK PROFESSIONAL T-MAX P3200 Film in 135-36x format. Shipments to Distributors and Stockhouse dealers will begin in March in the U.S., with other regions around the world following shortly thereafter.

To learn more, please visit www.kodakalaris.com/go/profilms (http://www.kodakalaris.com/go/profilms)

Follow us on Twitter @kodakprofilmbiz and Instagram @KodakProfessional

Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/kodakprofessional (http://www.facebook.com/kodakprofessional)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on February 23, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
I must say I'm quite happy with that news. While it was expensive, there wasn't much choice in the market if you needed an ultra high speed emulsion... Even with today's digital standards, there isn't much that can offer this level of quality at the sensitivity this film can reach when pushed to its limits.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on February 23, 2018, 02:05:13 PM
Ektachrome is not too far behind. Apparently, our beloved yellow company is studying the reintroduction of more than just a couple of films...
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on February 23, 2018, 04:41:32 PM
This a great news.  Will have to look at buying up some rolls.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on February 23, 2018, 04:53:48 PM
(https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28468215_10155371373447444_1085644857660525109_n.jpg?oh=923edea7617d57bd7a8f4d718c8be6b2&oe=5B14B65E)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: 02Pilot on February 23, 2018, 06:23:46 PM
FPP has TMax3200 available for pre-order at $9.99/roll. Until 28 Feb, use code savedollar at checkout to knock a buck off the price, no limit.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on February 23, 2018, 08:58:50 PM
9.99 USD... that's about the price it sold when I last used it.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Jeff Warden on February 24, 2018, 03:16:33 PM
FPP has TMax3200 available for pre-order at $9.99/roll. Until 28 Feb, use code savedollar at checkout to knock a buck off the price, no limit.

I took advantage of that. Thanks!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on June 04, 2018, 12:02:30 PM
Low-resolution image scans of new Ektachrome 100:

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34200553_2100009556684040_9058654646574252032_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a26fb1befea1c05042be7c84e762d14e&oe=5B7BD5D5)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34499488_2100009490017380_2915645369297666048_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0e69bb8c3b3fc64db8a291174449d3bc&oe=5BBCE29B)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34382437_2100009430017386_5701435331568467968_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=d3d994e92cd7ca8124ab0d3b35d92f72&oe=5B85924F)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MacArron on June 12, 2018, 10:38:26 PM
Tell us a bit more, please :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on June 13, 2018, 12:53:06 AM
Tell us a bit more, please :)

This was on Facebook:
Quote
Our development team has been making some great progress over the last few months with the Ektachrome update. We want to share a few photos which were shot on Ektachrome film made on our pilot-scale equipment. Hopefully you like them as much as we do! Be sure to like and follow us for more Ektachrome announcements.

Also this on Phoblographer:
https://www.thephoblographer.com/2018/06/12/kodak-new-ektachrome-100-better-scans/ (https://www.thephoblographer.com/2018/06/12/kodak-new-ektachrome-100-better-scans/)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on June 13, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
A bird told me that, maybe, just maybe, they will release drum-scanned samples if some sort of coating test results goes as expected.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MacArron on June 14, 2018, 12:28:16 PM
Thanks guys. I look forward to seeing those drum scanner samples. Seems promising  :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on June 14, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
Just to clarify, I'm not associated with Kodak at all. Just relying on information from people who work there.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on June 18, 2018, 08:32:56 AM
Nice article here: https://www.popsci.com/inside-kodak-factory-photos (https://www.popsci.com/inside-kodak-factory-photos)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on September 25, 2018, 02:36:36 PM
Ektachrome is back. Distributors can now order it and it's available for shipping. Shouldn't take long for the two NYC giants to have it in stock. 35mm, no news of 120 so far.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Jeff Warden on September 25, 2018, 04:45:41 PM
WOOT!!!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on September 25, 2018, 04:57:23 PM
It sounds like Super 8 is going to be available at the same time, about $40 per cartridge.  I also heard that they are offering 16mm unperforated for other companies to perforate into double 8mm.  Maybe Lomo will put it in 110 cartridges. 
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on September 25, 2018, 09:25:30 PM
Ektachrome is back. Distributors can now order it and it's available for shipping. Shouldn't take long for the two NYC giants to have it in stock. 35mm, no news of 120 so far.

But Adorama AND B&H are closed till NEXT WEDNESDAY :'( :'( :'( Great anti-Semitic timing there, Kodak  >:(
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on September 25, 2018, 10:41:06 PM
Try Freestyle, I just ordered two rolls, $13 each, delivery around October 16.

https://www.freestylephoto.biz/8706590-Kodak-Ektachrome-E100D-100-ISO-35mm-x-36-exposure (https://www.freestylephoto.biz/8706590-Kodak-Ektachrome-E100D-100-ISO-35mm-x-36-exposure)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: AJShepherd on September 26, 2018, 12:29:13 PM
Firstcall Photographic has it on pre-order (stock available end of October) at £13.99, just ordered a few rolls.

Next thing is to look on the 'bay for a spare 'Rondex' mag for my old Hanimex slide projector. While I'll scan the slides in, it'd be nice to view them properly!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: MiguelCampano on September 27, 2018, 04:07:13 PM
Ordered 5 rolls from TheFINDlab at $11 each. Ships on Oct 4th via USPS, so probably another 4 days or so before I get it.

Satish and Jeff, we'll have some Philadelphia adventures with Ektachrome very soon.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on September 27, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
Satish and Jeff, we'll have some Philadelphia adventures with Ektachrome very soon.
That is going to be fun :)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on September 29, 2018, 06:18:18 PM
I have a half dozen rolls on hold for me when they arrive at my local shop.  Will see how they scan on my Minolta Scan Dual IV and Epson V700 wet....and then my local shop with their Imacon 848...8000ppi should be fun. 😁
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on September 29, 2018, 09:48:55 PM
If I just had a local shop with an Imacon... I don't believe there's a single one in the whole of Montreal!
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on October 01, 2018, 06:01:18 PM
If I just had a local shop with an Imacon... I don't believe there's a single one in the whole of Montreal!

Prism photo here in Victoria has an 848.  Shame a large centre like Montreal has none.  Not sure about Toronto.  To be honest, I find the 3200 ppi scans to be pretty much enough from a film like E100.  When I compare 8000ppi and 3200ppi upsampled in PS to produce a 16x24 print....one would be extremely hard pressed to see any difference in real rez.  On an airforce test chart...yes.  On a landscape, portrait or street shot....not really.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on October 01, 2018, 09:40:38 PM
I must say these scanners are bloody expensive. I don't think that many companies can justify getting one around here.
Maybe Contact Image has one... but going there is a real nightmare. Just going in town is a big nightmare these days.
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Faintandfuzzy on October 02, 2018, 09:35:37 PM
I must say these scanners are bloody expensive. I don't think that many companies can justify getting one around here.
Maybe Contact Image has one... but going there is a real nightmare. Just going in town is a big nightmare these days.

Another option is to send film to Richard Photo Lab, The FIND Lab, or West Coast Imaging in the states.  I dont do a lot of MF or 4x5 anymore...mainly 110 and 35....so even a half decent desktop like a Minolta Scan Dual IV is a good choice. 
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Francois on October 02, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
The Minolta scanners were always pretty darn good. Too bad they stopped making them.

Maybe one of these days I'll just bite the bullet and build one that's up to my own specs...
I've had a few ideas on how to get insanely high resolution scans for relatively cheap but it involves quite a bit or construction and coding.
I was thinking about using a two axis carriage with a dual LED backlight that would be controlled by either an Arduino with a motor shield or a Raspberry Pi that would trigger a high resolution camera that is focused on the negative. The system would take a series of images that would get stitched-up. The two LED's would be an IR LED and a regular white light LED so that it would be possible to make a Digital ICE like system..............  But I'm going to probably let laziness take it's course and just rely on old faithful Epson...
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: EarlJam on October 02, 2018, 11:32:38 PM
If I just had a local shop with an Imacon... I don't believe there's a single one in the whole of Montreal!

A quick Google search points to Borealis and Photo Service in Montreal, and Toronto Image Works, with Imacon scanners. My sense is that there are more high-end scanners in local markets than we think, especially markets with a heavy corporate and advertising presence. The lab I use in Irvine has one to support Mazda USA and other heavyweights nearby.

http://www2.borealislab.qc.ca/borealis/scanning (http://www2.borealislab.qc.ca/borealis/scanning)
https://photoservice.ca/en/scanning-retouch.html (https://photoservice.ca/en/scanning-retouch.html)
http://www.torontoimageworks.com/scanning-and-reproduction/ (http://www.torontoimageworks.com/scanning-and-reproduction/)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on October 03, 2018, 06:06:00 AM
Super 8 film is for sale on the Kodak web site, I just ordered 5 carts.  Just when I was down to my last roll of Regular 8mm.  I haven’t had Super 8 film for at least a year now. 
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Indofunk on November 27, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
As of this writing, Ektachrome is still not available at Adorama  :'( >:( In fact, if it weren't for Bryan's pictures in the weekend thread, I'd suspect that this was all a cruel marketing gimmick by Kodak....  ::)

Bryan, where did you get your Ektachrome from? 35mm, right?
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: EarlJam on November 27, 2018, 05:11:39 PM
Super 8 film is for sale on the Kodak web site, I just ordered 5 carts.  Just when I was down to my last roll of Regular 8mm.  I haven’t had Super 8 film for at least a year now.

On a side note: have you had the opportunity to shoot Tri-X Reversal in Super 8? That was my film of choice during early film school days. Chambliss Cine has some available, which is very tempting.

http://www.chamblesscineequip.com/catalog/catalog.htm (http://www.chamblesscineequip.com/catalog/catalog.htm)
Title: Re: New production Ektachrome???
Post by: Bryan on November 27, 2018, 05:55:24 PM
As of this writing, Ektachrome is still not available at Adorama  :'( >:( In fact, if it weren't for Bryan's pictures in the weekend thread, I'd suspect that this was all a cruel marketing gimmick by Kodak....  ::)

Bryan, where did you get your Ektachrome from? 35mm, right?

I got the 35mm from Freestyle right when it became available.  I ordered the Super 8 directly from Kodak.
Super 8 film is for sale on the Kodak web site, I just ordered 5 carts.  Just when I was down to my last roll of Regular 8mm.  I haven’t had Super 8 film for at least a year now.

On a side note: have you had the opportunity to shoot Tri-X Reversal in Super 8? That was my film of choice during early film school days. Chambliss Cine has some available, which is very tempting.

http://www.chamblesscineequip.com/catalog/catalog.htm (http://www.chamblesscineequip.com/catalog/catalog.htm)

I have not tried Tri-X reversal, I may do that at some point.  So far I have either had a stock of Super 8 or Regular 8 Ektachrome.