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Title: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: Indofunk on October 06, 2016, 08:34:35 PM
Ingredients:

1 packfilm camera, empty (me: a Polaroid Automatic 100)
1 integral film camera, empty (me: an SX70)
1 empty packfilm case (me: FP100C)
1 empty integral film case WITH a working battery (me: IP)
integral film of choice (me: IP black & magenta 600)
darkroom/changing bag

Method:

1. Disassemble the packfilm case. I don't know about other packfilm cases, but the Fuji stuff comes apart really easily into 3 pieces.
2. In a dark room/bag, remove the darkslide from your integral film and pull out 1 exposure. At this point, I replace the darkslide so that I can pull out the packfilm for later use.
3. Load the integral film into the packfilm case. It's not an exact fit, and your integral film will bow out a bit, but it should look something like this:
(http://www.konakkol.com/images/other/IP_film_in_FP100C.jpg)
Definitely practice with an exposed shot in the light first :)
4. Still in the dark room/bag, load the assembled pack into your packfilm camera.
5. Now you can take everything out of the dark and shoot your single exposure.
6. Bring the packfilm camera, integral camera, and empty integral film case back into the dark, remove the packfilm, disassemble the pack, load the film into the integral case, and load it into the integral camera. The camera should automatically spit out the film, thinking it's the darkslide.
7. You're done! Bonus: no need for a frogtongue because you're in the dark already!

Obviously, the picture will be L-R reversed, but you can avoid the up-down reversal by orienting the camera so that the bottom of the film is facing up (something I forgot to do in the first test shot below).

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/polaroid100/20161006_001_IP_film.jpg)

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/polaroid100/20161006_002_IP_film.jpg)

Another advantage is that you can do multiple exposures, like I did on the second shot. Exposures are off because my camera doesn't have a 600 setting so I set it on 300 and turned the exposure compensation to 100% dark.

As a proof of concept it works! Definitely a lot of effort for one exposure, but if I can figure out how to make a darkslide for the packfilm, then I can load up a bunch of packs. Getting the darkslide back onto the exposed shot, however, will still require a changing bag...
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: Adam Doe on October 06, 2016, 08:40:27 PM
I did a similar excessively labor intensive thing a while back with Impossible, a 4x5 sheet film holder and my Zero Image pinhole camera. Funny how the process is not in my regular shooting arsenal  ;D

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7277/7804561146_646b6f63c6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/cTEq85)Drumkit-20-Min-SSUV+ Impossible Project Pinhole (https://flic.kr/p/cTEq85) by adoephoto (https://www.flickr.com/photos/adoephoto/), on Flickr
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: Indofunk on October 06, 2016, 08:44:39 PM
I love that image :)
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: clagom on October 07, 2016, 11:04:57 AM
It's not hassle free, but it's anyway fun to do :)
Doing the same with Instax and Impossible with the Mamiya RB67 and/or the Polaroid 190. Now though I don't put the film inside of the film pack cartridge, but use the pack film cartridge to keep the film on place, to push it.

An example with the Instax Mini.
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: Indofunk on October 07, 2016, 03:44:22 PM
It's not hassle free, but it's anyway fun to do :)
Doing the same with Instax and Impossible with the Mamiya RB67 and/or the Polaroid 190. Now though I don't put the film inside of the film pack cartridge, but use the pack film cartridge to keep the film on place, to push it.

Aha, that would work too. And it would probably buy me a couple of precious millimeters which might prevent the bowing of the film...
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: k.hendrik on October 24, 2016, 04:10:14 PM
What can you do with those empty cassettes ?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77846450@N00/18048569815/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/77846450@N00/18048569815/in/dateposted-public/)

Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: Francois on October 24, 2016, 09:11:52 PM
This is giving me a weird idea...
Putting sheet film in an old SX-70 cassette and fixing a light tight box to the eject slot.
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: jojonas~ on October 26, 2016, 12:40:37 PM
This is giving me a weird idea...
Putting sheet film in an old SX-70 cassette and fixing a light tight box to the eject slot.

That would be cool!

reminds me of another thing...
this has always impressed me ever since I first saw it
(https://cdn.instructables.com/FJE/5KBD/G6MPGCJ9/FJE5KBDG6MPGCJ9.MEDIUM.jpg)
http://www.instructables.com/id/Modify-Your-Polaroid-Spectra-Camera-to-use-Non-Pol/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Modify-Your-Polaroid-Spectra-Camera-to-use-Non-Pol/)
Title: Re: How to shoot integral film in a packfilm camera
Post by: Francois on October 26, 2016, 02:50:23 PM
Oh yeah... I totally had. forgotten about that thing!