Filmwasters
Which Board? => Main Forum => Topic started by: Ed Wenn on July 09, 2013, 11:35:15 PM
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There was a thread about this a few weeks ago, but I wanted to start another one to say that it's now official. I just don't 'get' the new Flickr layout; to the point where I've stopped using it other than for the very occasional upload. I've stopped commenting on people's photos or adding mine to groups. As soon as I see the site I want to get the hell out. It actually scares me a little and makes me feel powerless and ineffective.
Way to go, Flickr.
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I'm no fan of it either, but there were some welcome minor changes from the initial changeover a few weeks ago. What I don't like the most is the "Fetching more photos.." part of it. I'm constantly searching for photos and it is so much slower.
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I axed my account a few weeks ago.
I never had a flickr mind...so won't miss it.
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With you on this Ed, have persevered but from the drop off in activity I think there are a lot of like minded souls. Several have recommended Ipernity and I am trying it before moving there completely. So far I like the layout, the speed of navigation is much better and there does seem a more 'focused' group of photgraphers.
My greatest issue with the new flickr is the loading speed, so slow and very frustrating.
Haven't looked at 500px and wont do instagram due to the rights grab issues that were raised some time ago. Any others worth a try?
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I axed my account a few weeks ago.
I never had a flickr mind...so won't miss it.
Ditto.
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still using it but finding the speed frustrating...
a good example of users leaving is the normally very popular 'roidweek' group (a once per year group for polaroid images) has half the members of last year.
but when the most used camera on Flickr is the iPhone, I guess that dictates the kind of photography/er they are aiming to cater for...
shame as I used to quite like it...
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I'm very frustrated by this state of affairs because Flickr was my only connection to 'proper' photography outside of Filmwasters. I don't spend a lot of time online in front of a Web browser. Of the time I do spend in that fashion, most of it is spent here at FW and I used Flickr (which I joined in Jan 2005 when it was still in Beta) as my only other regular spot for checking out the wider world of photography.
Various ways this could go:
* Mothball the account. Leave everything there, but don't add anything new and don't renew Pro subscription.
* Use it as a link location/bucket/backup for my best photos and continue to upload occasionally.
* Remove all of my 3000+ photos and delete my account, then look for somewhere else to store photos.
Suspect I'll go with the first option and look for somewhere else less annoyingly laid out to get my online photo fix.
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I think there's a way to import the images from Flickr into Ipernity. Haven't tried myself though.
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My only gripes with the new flickr is that I feel less connected with my contacts. I feel like im missing a lot more. And that everything is so big. There is no breathing space. I'm constantly trying to scroll down in areas where you cant scroll. Or dragging out my browser window in hopes of finding an edge.
I really think that the new layout of photoscreams works more in favor towards digital shooters who have 2 or 3 good photos lumped in with a bunch of garbage. It makes the photoscream look more like a collage and reflect itself as a whole rather than each individual shot. It's unfortunate. I'm not sure I'm sold on it 100% but I have no other alternative. They wont likely change it back either.
Same thing with youtube. When they switched it around I feel like im missing way more.
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TinTin: You've expressed my views more eloquently than I did. Thanks.
Urban: I just signed up and tried ipernity (http://www.ipernity.com/doc/339759/23547001) and guess what? It looks and behaves almost exactly the same as Flickr used to! Funny that ;) Now if I could just port 3000+ photos and 8 years of friends' photos and comments over there I'd be ecstatic :)
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I think it's sort of possible to import the images: http://www.ipernity.com/blog/team/485851 (http://www.ipernity.com/blog/team/485851)
I haven't tried it myself though.
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I guess the other thing to point out is the pricing. Screenshot below taken from https://www.ipernity.com/club (https://www.ipernity.com/club)
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I guess the other thing to point out is the pricing.
Good or bad?
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Good question :-) I wasn't necessarily commenting on the pricing in a judgmental way, just pointn9ing out that there was a paid service and a free service. Off the top of my head I can't remember what a Flickr Pro account costs, but if Ipernity offers a similar level of service - and assuming a few more people join and start using it - then I'd have no problems paying them instead of Flickr.
After 20 minutes spent browsing Ipernity and coming away feeling calm and happy (as opposed to stressed and sad like with Flickr) I think I'll give it a serious spin. I notice Urban, Vicky Slater and Bob Notraces all have accounts in various stages of adopted-ness so I should be able to road test the site properly.
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Yes, it's not half bad. What I still miss is something like the flickr activity feed (http://www.flickr.com/activity (http://www.flickr.com/activity)) and proper RSS feeds (mostly for groups). Right now it's just too hard to find out what's going on.
And you will find quite a few people from Flickr there.
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Well, the beauty of the setup for me is that I don't really use Flickr Groups or other 'community' things....that's why I have Filmwasters. I use Flickr to store and show my photos and to see my friends' and contacts' work.
BTW, I just installed Flump (http://code.google.com/p/onairbustour/wiki/flump (http://code.google.com/p/onairbustour/wiki/flump)) and am using it to export my Flickr stream. It needs Adobe Air, but given how user friendly it is to drive I'm not too annoyed by that. It's been running for a few minutes and is at 17% already.
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maintaining a 60,000+ photo group, so I have to stay. The site I work on has a lot more broken photos because of the Flickr exodus. A few photos have also changed to flickr protest photos. I do have an ipernity account, but I'm not very active on it, but do use it a few times a week.
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I too noticed less activity on Flickr. I think it started before they upgraded the system and the upgrade simply sped things up.
With everybody using phones to shove images on Instagram without any regards for their images and their personal rights, it's no wonder Flickr is less active than it used to be.
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from the few years I've been using it flickr activity tends to be slower in the summer as plenty of folks are on holiday. There tends to be burst of photo uploads.
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Im going to look at ipernity. I'm kind of sick of flickr. It used to be a great resource to see great work and connect with great photographers but I agree its time to leave. Maybe I should look into setting up my cargo account again...
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I see about the same amount of traffic for my photos as before. I will stick it out for now, since it is free. Will see how i feel this winter when everything changes and ads appear alongside the photos.
I wonder what the percentage of users leaving and staying at flickr are film based as opposed to digital/phone users.
I've already mentioned my reservations about ipernity, with it's bad english all over the site, and the continuous spam in the flickr group threads.
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At the moment I'm posting to both flickr and ipernity. I prefer ipernity for the interface, which is spookily old-flickr like, but I've not yet got to the level of regularly-commenting contacts on ipernity that I used to have on flickr before the exodus.
My ipernity ID is, strangely enough, Kevin Allan.
How about we start up a filmwasters.com group on ipernity - just as a way of signposting filmwasters to the identities and images of other filmwasters ?
I'd be happy to be the moderator of such a group - it shouldn't need much in the way of discussions as this site already serves the discussions purpose.
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I see about the same amount of traffic for my photos as before. I will stick it out for now, since it is free. Will see how i feel this winter when everything changes and ads appear alongside the photos.
I can fix this with just two words: Adblock Plus
I've been using the add-on on Firefox for many years and it really works wonders cutting ads on so many sites. The only place I still see ads is Google's search page.
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I've gotten used to the new Flickr. It still suits my needs. Last night, though, I noticed that there was now a Yahoo search bar at the top, which I find aesthetically reprehensible. I understand that Yahoo owns Flickr but my browser already had search and I already have my search provider preference so I'd prefer if the real estate on my browser wasn't usurped.
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Last night, though, I noticed that there was now a Yahoo search bar at the top, which I find aesthetically reprehensible.
Ghastly that is too! You cannot turn it off it seems either? I am not a MyFace user either, but I had assumed their new format was to emulate those kiddie social networks? Skj.
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I was planning to stick around flickr cause.. well, reasons. one being all the information found within the groups. though I dunno how easy that's going to be to find in the future, anyone else seen the new design they're working on? click opt in on the button on this page: http://www.flickr.com/groups (http://www.flickr.com/groups)
-don't worry (yet!) you can always opt out. though I dunno for how long....
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a few thoughts... group selection...not a fan. options for changing to list mode is good, but line length is too long. Within a group it works for places that dont have a lot of discussions as all you see are photos. Groups welcome descriptions are awful and stuck under the group name.. which wont fit having to click a more button which creates a pop out text box :o. When discussions button is pressed it displays again very long line length of text making it hard to read. With in the discussion threads so far look fine.
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tkmedia: they have a group for this new design they're working on for the groups where you can give them your feedback :)
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I've given it a go, but still find it really difficult, I can't get used to it. I hate the shouty front page with loads of massive photos clammering for attention. I have really slow broadband connection, which more or less freezes my laptop when i try and open flickr at home, as it tries to download all the images, it's really frustrating. I'm finding the change to be an overall negative one, and it appears I'm not alone. A lot of the groups I go to seem to be getting quieter.
Not sure what to do when my Pro account expires.
BT has promised 'superfast' broadband 'within 3 years' which might help.
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I really like the new Flickr it now seems to respect the format i.e it doesn't crop everything square cropping off the subjects on the edge of frames.
I think it's a little slower which I can understand for those without broadband might be a pain.
As for the groups I can understand to a degree the criticism, but again find the layout more logical and informative.
(http://www.pbase.com/mark_antony/image/151258863.jpg)
Ed I saw you uploaded a photo about 24 hours ago, I commented on it :)
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A lot of the groups I go to seem to be getting quieter.
I noticed that too...
I've also always used a bunch of greasemonkey scripts on flickr to make it livable. Even in the old format, there were quite a few things that were a real pain to do the way I wanted to.
Has anyone seen the modification they made to the groups page this morning?
I don't know if I should call it an improvement or what?
But at least you can opt-out of the new design... at least for now.
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I really liked the old format better myself, but I can live with the new.
The one thing that bugs me, and this could just be because I'm using an older browser, is when I look through a huge search of images, it bumps me back to the top after I click and look on one. I then have to scroll back down to where I was. Very annoying.
I don't really use it too much to know too much about a lot of the other problems. I'll stay for now.
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Here's the new group page
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Apparemtly, I've recently renewed my "Pro" membership and now have unlimited storage and all sorts of other stuff I neither need nor know how to use. I must remember to change my settings in PayPal to avoid auto-renewing in future as I'm not really sure whether I want to use Flickr long-term or not.
As I have unlimited storage, is it worth using it as a cheap version of cloud storage and not clogging up my Mac's hard drive? Is it even possible to do this? If so, I'd need to work out how to bulk download - but also restricting viewing to myself only. Then there's the fact that Flickr strips out a load of EXIF data - which seems completely stupid and potentially dangerous as it could (presumably) be regarded as "orphan" and cashed-in upon by the site owners.
I've only got a few hundred shots on there - so maybe I'll just bin the lot and strat fresh somewhere else. I haven't tried "ipernity" but I might give it a look. I spend very little time on "Groups" as quite a few of the ones to which I subscribe are either very quiet or plagued by idiots asking some incredibly inane questions about "which would be the best lens for (insert name / model of camera here)??"
Sorry for pseudo-rant but I'm a bit out of sorts at the moment and very listless / feeling like I need a change or just something to spark my enthusiasm for life again.... :-\
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I much preferred the old format myself. I find the new format slow and awkward to use. I am not keen on the way the photostream is displayed - I have 60Mb broadband and it still takes an age to load and scroll.
I have found myself uploading fewer and fewer images since the change, almost to the point where I just cannot be bothered with it, which is a real shame. I have tried Google+ and Ipernity, but neither really float my boat.
I think the new format is clearly aimed at the iPhone generation and as competition for Instagram or something.
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I'm wondering whether I'm done with putting my photos on 'service' sites like Flickr now anyway. I signed up with Ipernity last week, but already cannot see any compelling reason to go there. I use Filmwasters to show images and interact with other likemindeds. If I didn't have FW, I'd probably be more focussed on finding a Flickr replacement. Suspect I'll stay with Flickr for the odd upload, but just not use it very much. Activities such as commenting, reading others' comments on my photos, checking groups etc will probably gind to a halt...and I'll not be renewing my Pro account next year.
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I really like the new layout and it was about time to be honest! I'm not sure about speed as I don't really use as much I use tumblr for example, but I'm sure this is something they'll probably work out.
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Me too, It's growing on me and seems to be getting faster–probably the page cache.
I never used Flickr much, just for linking to this forum for the image display, now you pretty much have unlimited space for 800 pixel web stuff for free Flickr makes more sense than ever.
I can understand if you paid for Pro, I probably wouldn't do that-it does make me think about the cost of my ancient Pbase account though....
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Still not sure about it, but, going on there this morning it is definitely getting quicker.
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Yeah, I'm wondering myself Ed. But I have to agree that Flickr is really handy for embedding images. For the extra safety should a Forum upgrade go wrong, you know ::)
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Flickr have just emailed to say my 'Pro' membership expires in 30 days. They're quoting $24.95 for the year which isn't expensive, I've been a member since 2007, but I'm seriously considering not renewing.
I originally liked the changes and the larger images, but I'm still finding it just a little more 'awkward' to navigate and it certainly seems to have become quieter since the changes.
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If you don't like the new page for your own stream, click on Edit and save a link to that and use it as your start page. It looks more like the old page and displays the information under the image as before.
The other entrance page for me is the images from my contacts. I prefer the new look with the bigger images. Again, I saved a link to the page to go straight there.
Groups have never worked well for me (although I belong to about 120 of them) and the new layout won't help. Maybe I just need to rationalise which I belong to as most I don't look at regularly anyway. Again, saving links direct to the group pages you visit most often can help. Thinking about it, that's probably the problem - there's just too many groups - and people cross post to them like mad (me too!).
I won't be moving as I get free pro membership because I use BT. If that changes I might think again.
I'm off to thin out my groups list.
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Peter - that's a good tip thanks! I've saved the 'From your contacts' page, which is mainly what I look at, as my Flickr bookmark which works a little better. I don't often look at the groups pages unless I'm trying to research something, or see what a certain film type looks like.
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Groups have never worked well for me (although I belong to about 120 of them) and the new layout won't help. Maybe I just need to rationalise which I belong to as most I don't look at regularly anyway. Again, saving links direct to the group pages you visit most often can help. Thinking about it, that's probably the problem - there's just too many groups - and people cross post to them like mad (me too!).
I love the bizarre, bazaar nature of Flickr groups. Love fire hydrants? Conifers by kite? Tintypes from tin cans? It's all likely there, or will be next week.
I'd take either the old or the new group layout over that ugly, vertical stream-thing they had in between. That was a unwieldy mess.
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If you don't like the new page for your own stream, click on Edit and save a link to that and use it as your start page. It looks more like the old page and displays the information under the image as before.
....and with a single tip Mr Angry, that nice Mr Robinson, saves Ed from needing to look for a new photo hosting site. AWESOME, Peter. Thanks a thrumpty million. I definitely owe you a beer.
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Yeah, I'm wondering myself Ed. But I have to agree that Flickr is really handy for embedding images. For the extra safety should a Forum upgrade go wrong, you know ::)
You're just a troublemaker aren't you, Herr Hafner?
;) :D ;D 8)
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....and with a single tip Mr Angry, that nice Mr Robinson, saves Ed from needing to look for a new photo hosting site. AWESOME, Peter. Thanks a thrumpty million. I definitely owe you a beer.
Can't claim any originality as I got it from someone else - don't remember who though.
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You're just a troublemaker aren't you, Herr Hafner?
;) :D ;D 8)
;D ;D ;D
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looks like new groups redesign is fully integrated... nope they did not take any of my suggestions, some were very minor spacing tweaks, font size, etc. My group will be much harder to comb thru to look for new photos added to the pool. Randomly looking thru the pool to add photos to my site will be much harder since the thumbs are so large. Deliberately searching for photos within the pool is the only option, let just hope folks use good tags.
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let just hope folks use good tags.
Not to be a party pooper but how many times have you seen really good tags?
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if someone adds a photo to my camera group tagless and named P763460 with no descriptions and IF I catch it, I often times add some basic tags based on the photo.
I even surprised a few folks by tagging model numbers to photos of cameras that dont have the numbers printed on the body. I did this recently with a rollei SLX model 2 where the user thought they had a model 1.
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i always tag my junk really well. Camera, lens, film, process, scanner, software(sometimes)
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Well it appears flickr changed over their groups now. And locked out completely their feedback group. This is my last straw with these clowns. I'm pulling all of my stuff this week. >:(
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Yes I think I'm done too.
I'm not going to take my photos down because I don't want to break links, but I'm probably going to switch everything to private. They're not going to make ad money off of my content while they've alienated me from the site.
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There's competition in the air!
I was just reading Petapixel to stumble on this
http://petapixel.com/2013/07/30/smugmug-photo-sharing-website-gets-a-complete-overhaul/ (http://petapixel.com/2013/07/30/smugmug-photo-sharing-website-gets-a-complete-overhaul/)
Smugmug has just gone through a complete overhaul. And best part is: some of it is customizable by the user!
Let me know what you think.
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There's competition in the air!
I was just reading Petapixel to stumble on this
http://petapixel.com/2013/07/30/smugmug-photo-sharing-website-gets-a-complete-overhaul/ (http://petapixel.com/2013/07/30/smugmug-photo-sharing-website-gets-a-complete-overhaul/)
Smugmug has just gone through a complete overhaul. And best part is: some of it is customizable by the user!
Let me know what you think.
It's not free though. I'm trying out 500px now. The only reason I continued to hang around flickr was for the groups. Now that they're unusable/unappealing there's not really anything to set flickr apart from other sites, like say photobucket. If 500px doesn't interest me then I really will use photobucket.
I didn't think I'd ever say this, but even deviantart is a better site for photos now than flickr is.
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after all that moaning and groaning I got a nice little email from Flickr reminding me that they will automatically be charging me for another yearly pro subscription! Of course, no way to opt out in the email. I'll likely have to sign in and fiddle about with my profile settings to find some obscure little box that says cancel subscription... Ugh...
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I bailed out of Flickr two months ago when all the nonsense started up. I promptly set up shop at Ipernity and could not be happier! Tons of warm & friendly folks there who take photography seriously. I even started up my own group last month, (by invitation) and currently have over 1,240 members, making it the fastest growing (and one of the top 5 largest) groups on Ipernity. Although I was a long-time Flickr member, I really don't miss it at all.
Any of you who decide to migrate to Ipernity, look me up at the links below!
Glen
My Ipernity page: www.ipernity.com/home/newfoundland (http://www.ipernity.com/home/newfoundland)
My Ipernity Group: www.ipernity.com/group/fineartlandscapes (http://www.ipernity.com/group/fineartlandscapes)
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I've just found a trick to make Flickr a lot faster loading!
I use their mobile version which is not half bad (I know Statler would say "you're right! it ain't half bad, it's all bad!")
m.flickr.com
OK, you do loose the groups, but it loads blazing fast!
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I've looked at, and read up on, a couple of these other sites, (500px, ipernity, etc). On the one hand, apart from the factor of competitive software updating, any of them is probably as good as any other for file sharing. But when it comes to groups, other than special interest forums, Flickr is still where the majority of folks seem to be, a factor that, as with Facebook, can be more important than the software design itself.
Even if it is now impossible to find them or view their shots comfortably !!
I haven't seen an issue with fast or slow loading with Flickr, I just find it irritating that they load my contacts' images so large when I only need a thumbnail to get an idea of what I want to look into. So I now look at 10% of what I previously did. The Flickr designers have effed up big time, but I assume that it will change again in the future, and hopefuly with more options for personalisation. Flickr will remain my dumping ground.
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I came across this today...
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7366/11242339874_9f3ba9d907.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wa2wider/11242339874/)
flickr black day (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wa2wider/11242339874/#) by wa2wider (http://www.flickr.com/people/wa2wider/), on Flickr
The text from that page:
Many of us, but not all, have been surprised two weeks ago by a complete new photopage lay out, that is stripped of many of the functionalities we used to have. It has made Flickr completely unworkable.
- You can't edit your comment anymore.
- The comment box is less the 2 iches wide and just over half an inch high.
- The font used is so tiny you need a magnifying glass.
- You can't include photos anymore in your comment.
- You can't add notes anymore to a photo.
- It's impossible to see who favs your photo.
- When you are in a group and open a photo, and close it again, you are automatically transferred to that person's photostream, instead of back to that group again.
Commenting on photos has completely dried up since this new lay out. I have not commented anymore, because it is almost impossible. Neither have I received any comments since the new lay out came into effect.
Luckily, someone advised me a workaround for now: change language, and you have the old lay out back. I am now using Flickr in German, and some of my contacts are doing that now too.
But as a protest, we want to add black images coming Sunday. I doubt Flickr will listen, but the Flickr community will fall apart when this new lay out will go global.
I probably wont post it, as Flickr likely needs to get in line over UI foul-ups ::) but it is interesting nonetheless.
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mine actually switched back today after being "stuck" in this ridiculous mode!
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Mine has gone back again too. One of my grievances over the last change - which did not appear for all users - was that I couldn't any longer link to a flickr image in a filmwasters thread, because the correct linkage code wasn't accessible
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it was, but just very unintuitively hidden. It made 2 clicks turn into like 5 clicks. I hope they don't change it permanently. I've already started looking elsewhere for an image site. I just have a hard time nixing 1000+ photos categorized and tagged. I use flickr for my own purposes to find photos as well so switching would be a huge pain.
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For me Flickr is dead since the last major layout change some months ago. These endlessly scrolling pages are nothing I want to deal with. I cut all contacts and use flickr as an upload space, 1TB for free is nice. f.e. to show my images here and elsewhere. Sometimes I get a comment from old buddies, and sometimes I make a comment on a picture I saw here at FW, that's it. I can live without douzens of likes and hundreds of fake views. Flickr used to be a great ressource and database. Some groups were really great. Flickr of course was part of the caffenol hype, I co-administer a group. RIP. C'est la vie.
Use flickr or any other web site as a backup? No way. You will never know if they still exist tomorrow. Film is a great backup ;-)
I went to ipernity, but that's a bit too familiar. And the groups are almost dead. Then I joined FW :)
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I know I was stuck in their beta presentation mode for close to 6 months before I finally got a button on the bottom left of a viewed image that allowed me to opt out of the beta testing mode. What a relief!
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I have to admit I've pretty much given up on Flickr, which is a shame as I used to really like it but I just find the new layout very intuitive.
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I set up an Ipernity page and transferred most of my photos from flickr. I like the functionality of Ipernity but it's kind of lonely over there.
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I set up an Ipernity page and transferred most of my photos from flickr. I like the functionality of Ipernity but it's kind of lonely over there.
I just opened an account over there, I have no friends :(
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I think I must have lost nearly half of my Flickr contacts after the layout change. I haven't been able to find more than a few of them on Ipernity. For the most part they simply disappeared. I'm still hanging on with Flickr but I visit the site less and less. Maybe it's time to cut the ropes and start again somewhere else. Ipernity is the obvious choice, I guess.
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I cancelled my pro subscription yesterday...
most photos I post now barely get any comments, so either flickr is quieter or my pics are poor!
it is so annoying to use now that I am pretty much over it and all the forums are so quiet now too.
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I cancelled my pro subscription yesterday...
most photos I post now barely get any comments, so either flickr is quieter or my pics are poor!
Me, too. I'd just assumed I was using the wrong deodorant...!! 8)
Incidentally, how do you cancel your Pro account?? (I pay mine on a standing order using Paypal, so I presume it's probably down to me cancelling it via them)
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glad its just not me :)
I had to look too. go to the settings in the top right (the image thumbnail) and one of the top options is 'manage your pro subscription' and you can cancel from there.
all that does is stop the next payment, you remain a 'pro' until the payment year is up.
not sure but I think it just means we'll get ads now, and there is no longer a limit to the number of images you can display... but we'll see...
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For the ads, I just use the Adblock plus addon for Firefox (it also exists for Chrome and Opera). I haven't seen a ad on Flickr for a very long time with this plugin on!
It also works wonders with all the sites.
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I've just got to the point where I see no real benefit (other than a free terrabyte of storage) in having a Flickr account anymore.
The forums I belong to are slow to plate-tectonically slow. Discussions are limited to say the least. Commenting, where it happens, is usually restricted to "love the colours" sort of comments (which becomes catching after a while). People post inappropriate photos (square photos in the XPan group, colour photos in B&W groups, digital photos in film groups, etc..). I don't know if these people are thick, are suffering from attention deficit disorders or do it for badness / thinking it's funny.
The 1 Terrabyte isn't much of a draw as I have about 2.5 Terrabytes capacity at home and, if memory serves, wasn't there some issue about EXIF data being stripped out and claims by the site owners to being able to lease orphan images?
I think I'll be removing my photos and shutting down my Flickr site very soon. Good time of year for a clear-out....
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Still use flickr, really haven't found an alternative I like. I still get decent views and I have so much stuff there I don't really feel like starting over until I have to. I do figure that someday in the next couple years I will click on the flickr link and get a message like "thank you so much for supporting flickr through the years, but blah blah blah we are shutting it down, so sorry".
If I had one thing to complain about, it's that the site seems to be eternally broken. There is always something not working. For a company the size of Yahoo, I find this pretty unacceptable.
I use ad blockers on my computer but even on my ipad I have never seen an ad on flickr, so not sure what other people are experiencing.
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Still use flickr, really haven't found an alternative I like. I still get decent views and I have so much stuff there I don't really feel like starting over until I have to. I do figure that someday in the next couple years I will click on the flickr link and get a message like "thank you so much for supporting flickr through the years, but blah blah blah we are shutting it down, so sorry".
If I had one thing to complain about, it's that the site seems to be eternally broken. There is always something not working. For a company the size of Yahoo, I find this pretty unacceptable.
I use ad blockers on my computer but even on my ipad I have never seen an ad on flickr, so not sure what other people are experiencing.
Och heer, heer 8) ::) :)
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Here´s my take on the whole flickr mishap:
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7405/9297758485_d0dd5c75be_o.jpg)
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yeah to be fair I still get lots of views, just much less interaction...
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I never could get any type of stat to work on mine...
My images get zero views unless somebody tells me they've seen it through the comments...
Then, it's zero views for Flickr but one for me...
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I'm with Sean on this one. I really can't be bothered to go looking and uploading all my stuff elsewhere.
I don't necessarily like what they have done, but, everywhere will have downsides. My visits are dramatically up since the new version went live. Not that I care either way. I just feel that it is better the devil you know. I also like the iphone app very much.
I had paid for a pro account just before they went free so I suppose that is why I see no ads. I will possibly reassess when that runs out, but, for now I am as happy as I ever am about anything - fair to middling! ;D
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I'm with Sean on this one. I really can't be bothered to go looking and uploading all my stuff elsewhere.
I don't necessarily like what they have done, but, everywhere will have downsides. My visits are dramatically up since the new version went live. Not that I care either way. I just feel that it is better the devil you know. I also like the iphone app very much.
I had paid for a pro account just before they went free so I suppose that is why I see no ads. I will possibly reassess when that runs out, but, for now I am as happy as I ever am about anything - fair to middling! ;D
Och heer, heer, heer 8) 8)
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I too can´t be bothered to go elsewhere. I have a couple of blogs that fetch the photos from Flickr, making the job of moving even more tedious. I liked it better before, and yes the comments were more frequent and less mechanical than they are nowadays, and the groups more active. But I´m not too bothered. As most others I use flickr as a repository to which I can link from sites where I would like my stuff shown.
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I really like the look of Glen's Ipernity page and I'm not just talking about his amazing photographs. I did look into signing up and they give you several options including using your Yahoo or Flickr account. Does this link it to your Flickr account? They do make their money from advertising but I couldn't find how much storage they give you for free. Are there any fees involved?
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bloody flickr
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I only really used flickr as storage to link to other sites, i posted in a few groups but the novelty wore off very quickly.
I guess its because i don't seek recognition or approval for my pictures, sure its good if someone likes it but i wont loose sleep if no one does.
Having said that, I've just loaded my stream on a 100mb connection and it took ages, the slowest site I've used for a long time
I guess i will just use it when i want to share a shot on another forum
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im slowly setting up ipernity...more out of panic.
http://www.ipernity.com/home/313379?rev=31 (http://www.ipernity.com/home/313379?rev=31)
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Just set ipernity up, cant upload anything as my pc is still in boxes after the move
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kind of looks ok, just zero activity...
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Have also set up on Vivaldi.net. Bit of a case of, "Well, why not."
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I've actually seen increased activity on flickr over the past six months or so. Not "views" which is a number that mysteriously tripled on everything, but actual likes...used to get 5-20 on popular photos, now I pretty regularly get 40+, which isn't bad for someone who doesn't make much effort to get likes other than to post to groups.
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Ive also seen an increase of views. I'm going to assume that flickr is counting as a view if you land on someones home page, which if you have lots of contacts can add to views.
Usually now if I have a really good shot I'll sometimes break 10 favourites on a shot. Which is more than usual. I'm not much of a flicker power user I just post what I like.
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Not "views" which is a number that mysteriously tripled on everything, but actual likes
Me too. Funny thing is, my pictures get seen more by people around Montreal!
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I think people use the "Favorites" button for different reasons on Flickr. Some people like me use it to save a photo for reference or because we want to look at it again, others use it as a "like" button similar to Facebook. If you check on some of the people who are adding your photos to their favorites they may have hundreds of thousands of them. That's a lot of pictures to have in your favorites folder. I don't think they are going back to look at them. I'm just speculating but another reason may be they do it to get more traffic to their own page. I guess it doesn't really matter how you use it.
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I've actually seen increased activity on flickr over the past six months or so. Not "views" which is a number that mysteriously tripled on everything, but actual likes...used to get 5-20 on popular photos, now I pretty regularly get 40+, which isn't bad for someone who doesn't make much effort to get likes other than to post to groups.
That may be because it is now possible to view images on the "follow" page and press a few "fave" buttons without ever opening up the images to view them larger. Although, that doesn't seem to work for me since I still receive very few favourites ...
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apparently flickr is checking that uservoice thingiy:
Allow user choice of Justified or Thumbnail display in Stream/Groups/Search
Gathering Feedback → Started
Thank you for this feedback Jeff S and thank you all who voted for it.
In future updates to the Flickr apps, you will be able to switch between justified and thumbnail displays for your images. This choice will be enabled subsequently in the desktop experience as well.
We’ll be sure to provide updates as we make the announcements and will give more feedback here and in the Help Forum.
Thanks,
Matthew Roth
Flickr Community Team
www.flickr.com/photos/matthewalmonroth/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewalmonroth/)
So something to look forward to for those that liked the thumbnail display better (me included)
link for the page: https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/211185-us-flickr/suggestions/4447502-allow-user-choice-of-justified-or-thumbnail-displa?tracking_code=06089d4207a3cff20fcb48094c240f8d (https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/211185-us-flickr/suggestions/4447502-allow-user-choice-of-justified-or-thumbnail-displa?tracking_code=06089d4207a3cff20fcb48094c240f8d)
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So today I just deleted both my Flickr and Ipernity account. I think it will be nice to focus just on the blog and Filmwasters.
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So today I just deleted both my Flickr and Ipernity account. I think it will be nice to focus just on the blog and Filmwasters.
Well done, Urban.
I'm building (with a little help from friends) a new website which will also have a blog. Probably up and running in a month or so - at which point, my existing website, my Tumblr (owned by Yahoo) and Flickr postings will all be consigned to the great waste bin of history. Only one site to populate (+FW, of course) from then onwards.
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Thank you! I cannot get it either! I cannot figure out how to use the f%#@ing thing! I gave up.
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What bugs me is the inconsistencies between users!
I accidentally opted-in to their beta test which is lacking a ton of features. Then I tried to opt-out but the opt-out button wasn't there. Took more than a month for it to appear at the lower left of a viewed image...
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So today I just deleted both my Flickr and Ipernity account. I think it will be nice to focus just on the blog and Filmwasters.
Who will be admin for the 52 rolls Flickr group?
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I also decided to remove my pictures from Flickr and declined the changed Yahoo data protection conditions (in Germany).
Will get me more motivated to get my own website running.
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I also decided to remove my pictures from Flickr and declined the changed Yahoo data protection conditions (in Germany).
Will get me more motivated to get my own website running.
I deleted all mine last night. I've left a message for any contacts who might want to keep in touch via my blog but getting the photos out of Flickt felt like quite a cathartic experience. New website will be up and running in the not too distant future, I hope....
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Well looks like they changed it again... I have a different view for viewing peoples photos. I HATE it. Im going to start looking for alternatives soon. Flickr was the king when it came to uploading photos. Now its just gotten stupid. >:(
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Well looks like they changed it again... I have a different view for viewing peoples photos. I HATE it. Im going to start looking for alternatives soon. Flickr was the king when it came to uploading photos. Now its just gotten stupid. >:(
well...the text and comments are at least somewhat improved over the previous beta.
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They said that they wanted to go for a cleaner look... if that means anything?
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The bbcode embed codes only embed the original size, no matter which one you pick. So now to link photos here, you either have to upload two 'originals' and embed the smaller one or find another solution/site. Unfortunately, iPernity only allows Club members to see the embed code, so I guess I'm stuck using Photobucket to link photos?? What has the world come to??
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James has raised a good point. What are the other options people are using?
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Click on the push pin icon, that's how I did this.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/13358469235_5dab5783f1.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mmrDv6)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/13358469235_5dab5783f1_q.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mmrDv6)
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3696/13358469235_5dab5783f1_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/mmrDv6)
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here's the kicker though, it doesn't remember what your previous setting was like the old flickr did.
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you can always try to manually change the file names suffixes for different sizes.
s small square 75x75
q large square 150x150
t thumbnail, 100 on longest side
m small, 240 on longest side
n small, 320 on longest side
- medium, 500 on longest side (no suffix)
z medium 640, 640 on longest side
c medium 800, 800 on longest side†
b large, 1024 on longest side
o original image, either a jpg, gif or png, depending on source format
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Ive done this before as well, but its not entirely foolproof. Some file links are different than others for some reason
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At least Photobucket has now upped their game with their slideshow function. Pretty good ... http://www.sandehalynch.com/slideshows.htm (http://www.sandehalynch.com/slideshows.htm)
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What is the push pin icon :-\
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If you go to the icon that says "share this photo" (looks like a rectangle with an arrow) you will see the facebook, twitter etc icons. It's directly under those on the right. It looks like a push pin. click on it then below you can select the size and copy the url for the picture.
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Cheers, Bryan ;D
Very useful - I'd prefer not to take a bat to this screen next time I share a photo.
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Click on the push pin icon, that's how I did this.
Hmmm. I tried this and only ever got the original size. Here is the code for the last post on THIS THREAD (http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=6547.msg88784#msg88784). I have tried with IE and Chrome with the same results.
The latest in my ongoing photo essay...
[url=http://jamesharrphoto.blogspot.com/2014/03/pushing-through-xii.html]http://jamesharrphoto.blogspot.com/2014/03/pushing-through-xii.html[/url]
Sorry about not embedding the photo, but apparently Flickr in their great wisdom has turned off the bbcode option for embedding photos. Unfortunately, iPernity doesn't have it either! Really I have to go to Photobucket to get this simple feature!!???
[url=https://flic.kr/p/mrJHHt][img]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/13418382793_b8d6868e4f.jpg[/img][/url]
[url=https://flic.kr/p/mrJHHt][img]https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/13418382793_b8d6868e4f_t.jpg[/img][/url]
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Just above the url code it shows the size of the image. You can click on that to get a drop down menu to select the size you want. I wonder if the change to the new Flickr hasn't fully taken affect for everyone. I'm using firefox.
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Just checking if it works...
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/12418178234_4f74878b0c_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jVmpKh)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/12418178234_4f74878b0c_q.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jVmpKh)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2880/12418178234_4f74878b0c_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/jVmpKh)
Looks like it does.
Here's the how to:
First, click on the box with the arrow for sharing.
Second, click on the pushpin for embedding.
Third select the resolution.
Fourth, copy the address.
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I figured out a work-around and wrote it up HERE (http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=6986.0).
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Actually, I think I can live with this change. Really I am just using flickr for two things: 1) mainly as a place to park photos for this site, and 2) if I am somewhere and a someone says "you are shooting film???" and I can point them to my pics and the pics of some of the crazy cats that I follow.
So I really am not spending hours trolling flickr and looking at lots of pics. Every now and then I try to get a pic liked by droves of strangers and then I ask myself why I am doing it. I would rather have the occasional comment from folks here than lots of comments from people I don't know. As long as I can embed pics here from flickr in a reasonably convenient manner (as it seems possible with the current version unless they screw it up again), I am good with it. Thanks for letting us all know that things have changed there once again and for the suggestions of workflows (including your note, Tony, about changing the suffix if you accidentally grabbed the wrong size).
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/12935993314_236932a9fc_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/kH7m8u)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/12935993314_236932a9fc_t.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/kH7m8u)
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I dont even bother putting photos in groups except for the ones I manage.
For the new design I also dont like that it is hard to tell if a photo has already been invited to a group.
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Interesting. Dropbox is making serious moves to become more than just a file storage service. In addition to flogging other services (such as its mail offerings), it is beefing up its photography features. Notably today it announced Carousel (http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/09/dropbox-carousel/) - a photo app for iOS and Android. While a nice phone app is important to me for a photo hosting service, it is not the main thing I am looking for, as I mainly use it for posting images here or for sending links to friends. However, I think that putting cash into phone apps is certianly dropbox's way of signaling a serious interest in photography.
The funny thing is that almost all my files that I post here are at one time or another on dropbox. However, for me to start letting folks see my dropbox images would radically change how I use dropbox. Currently I do not share anything in dropbox, and I like that. I can keep work related docs there without worrying too much that I have accidentally granted permission to someone. (And, no, they are not mission critical, highly confidential work docs, I would not post them in dropbox and try to minimize their online presence.)
It will be interesting to see how dropbox evolves with regards to photography.
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Thanks for the Pin tip...I had only fallen foul of the new layout once before I stopped trying to link to Flickr images, but this new level of functionality is fine by me.
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OK this is really turning into a bit of a "beating a dead horse" thread but I fired up the Flickr app on my iPhone today and it had updated itself. (It is out for Android too.) It used to be not too bad for scanning pics of those I follow but it is now even more of an Instagram clone than the previous version. Taking photos with the iPhone has been part of the app forever but now it is even more front and centre (with goofy old-timey filters of course) and other features have been removed. I may go back to the web version on my phone when I check out the pics of those I follow - and that is a real step back. To add insult to injury, the camera part of the app - which is supposed to be the centrepiece - is really buggy on my iPhone 4S. It may be worse than what they did to the web version!
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If you want the slightly older 'photo view' from a few months ago, you can always change to older web browser agents.
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I think I heard someone say that switching to french gave you some old version back
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I think I heard someone say that switching to french gave you some old version back
I'll switch to the Tamil version ... that's probably still on v 0.01 :D
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another change ;)
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and a good one at that! like a mix of the old photoviewer and the new.
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I like the group section, as it tells me if the photo has been invited without multiple clicks. I like the return of the map.
I wish they have better way of improving tags (autofill) based on camera and film you define or a basic database. Like say it was shot with a rolleiflex it could automatically add TLR, 6x6, medium format, etc. Say it was shot on pan F, it will add ISO50, B&W, ilford, film, etc.
Say you have album based on camera type, it will add tags to the photo automagically when added to the album.
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I did notice that on some of the tags the system now adds a drawing of the camera it was taken with... or at least something close to it.
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looks like the 'notes' feature is missing.
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For me, the full changes came only last night... probably some stuff was left in my cache.
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I'm not sure if its been mentioned here but I constantly get a bug where when adding photos to groups, any group which moderates their photostream gives me a popup warning me of the moderation, then when it goes away I get bumped back up to the top of my groups list. I have to say this is really annoying especially when Im scrolling up and down my groups list multiple times just to add to groups.
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http://thomashawk.com/2014/08/the-new-and-improved-flickr.html (http://thomashawk.com/2014/08/the-new-and-improved-flickr.html)
Interesting enough but has any actually noticed improvements?
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Well... the improvements to the groups thing are negligible. I still find it annoying that I have to scroll back up a thread to go back to the discussions.
But the picture viewing is a bit better... though I miss the old close X in the right corner to go back to the previous view...
At least now they have people actually working on it, not just fixing bugs and keeping the servers running.
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I noticed from the flickr help group that a new groups view is coming. I still have the old one.
I dunno about you guys but it all started to flow easier for me atleast. not as slow anymore.
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Maybe the found a deal on a bunch of old PC's and decided to add them to their server ;)
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anyone else notice that the tags are back to normal?
ie they lead to the photographer of the shot's other photos that are tagged the same.
I am happy...(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYUFbSilgeNHcx1_yCoVDie3rV4U7zf2rkqQ989vUbAt3aQnrEDZXFxg)
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I've been using their beta for the groups and must admit that I kinda like it... that's scary!
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I am getting so discouraged with the Groups on Flickr. I just left the Alternative Photography Process group because out of the first 5 photos I viewed ALL of them were iPhone photos. Since when is an iPhone photo and Alternative Process!!?? I am finding the same thing with other supposedly analog groups I view there. It's like an iPhone invasion. It's too bad because there used to be some good active discussions on those groups about things that interest me. The groups that are still active are just too active to keep up with (I Shoot Film comes to mind). I guess I will content myself with filmwasters.com and just use Flickr for storage/sharing and forget about the community that used to thrive there.
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I'm only in three groups, mostly because I administer or created them. Not very active in discussion.
Camera-wiki.org
Photos for a free online encyclopedia of cameras and photography.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/ (http://www.flickr.com/groups/camerawiki/)
Film in Chinatown
Chinatown captured on film.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2455778@N20/ (http://www.flickr.com/groups/2455778@N20/)
Rerapan
127 B&W
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2678251@N24 (http://www.flickr.com/groups/2678251@N24)
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I run a few too. most of them are just for creating specific collections of images but the bronica one gets some good discussions (I created it just three months ago)
rain on film is really the only one I've had problems with maybe 30% digital in there so I asked to be admin so I could clean up the pool and moderate the inflow. we shifted to submission by approval and it has gone real well since then :)
Minolta AF-C
(not huge but it was abandoned by the admin so I was glad to take over)
https://www.flickr.com/groups/minolta_af-c/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/minolta_af-c/)
50 members
332 photos
4 topics
Bronica 6x6 Focal Plane SLR
(my precious :) )
https://www.flickr.com/groups/classicbronica/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/classicbronica/)
73 members
728 photos
21 topics
Rain On Film
(themed group, yeah)
https://www.flickr.com/groups/2138035@N22/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/2138035@N22/)
203 members
973 photos
2 topics
LOMO LC-A loves BW film
(I had a hard time finding bw lc-a shots so I created this)
https://www.flickr.com/groups/lc-a_loves_bw/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/lc-a_loves_bw/)
116 members
1,126 photos
9 topics
FK Prisma Göteborg
(for my photo club)
https://www.flickr.com/groups/fkprisma/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/fkprisma/)
13 members
146 photos
20 topics
Göteborg Filmdivision
(Gothenburg captured on film)
https://www.flickr.com/groups/gbgfilm/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/gbgfilm/)
24 members
430 photos
7 topics
LAST CAMERA superheadz
(camera specific group again. my camera didn't work though :P )
https://www.flickr.com/groups/2143165@N20/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/2143165@N20/)
8 members
16 photos
3 topics
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Film in Chinatown
Chinatown captured on film.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2455778@N20/ (http://www.flickr.com/groups/2455778@N20/)
Ah, so you must have been the one who invited me in :P
I'm a "member" of 75-odd groups, but mostly I'm just a leech ... I submit photos when they fit the theme only so that I can get views and faves. I don't even read the discussions :-[ But when I'm Googling a problem and come upon a helpful Flickr thread (which is quite often actually), I will sometimes join in.
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I like the "Rain on film" group Jojons, I may have to join to get inspired to take more pictures during the rainy Seattle winter months.
I'm in a small group called "Use the Force: Unassisted film". They made everyone in the group moderators, all 56 of us, so that's the only one I moderate.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1 (https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1)
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I like the "Rain on film" group Jojons, I may have to join to get inspired to take more pictures during the rainy Seattle winter months.
I'm in a small group called "Use the Force: Unassisted film". They made everyone in the group moderators, all 56 of us, so that's the only one I moderate.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1 (https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1)
I just joined both of these groups, and tried to add a photo to the rain on film group and found that it was already there! Weird, I don't remember adding it, but I'm glad it's there :)
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I just exercised my Moderator authority and approved your photo Satish :). I see we're up to 58 members now!
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I like the "Rain on film" group Jojons, I may have to join to get inspired to take more pictures during the rainy Seattle winter months.
I'm in a small group called "Use the Force: Unassisted film". They made everyone in the group moderators, all 56 of us, so that's the only one I moderate.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1 (https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1)
I just joined both of these groups, and tried to add a photo to the rain on film group and found that it was already there! Weird, I don't remember adding it, but I'm glad it's there :)
yes, I invite photos that I like to the pool to try to advertise the group :)
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I would join Rain on Film, but I live in San Diego and my contributions would be well, non-existent.
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I like the "Rain on film" group Jojons, I may have to join to get inspired to take more pictures during the rainy Seattle winter months.
I'm in a small group called "Use the Force: Unassisted film". They made everyone in the group moderators, all 56 of us, so that's the only one I moderate.
https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1 (https://www.flickr.com/groups/usetheforce/pool/?donepending=1)
I just joined both of these groups, and tried to add a photo to the rain on film group and found that it was already there! Weird, I don't remember adding it, but I'm glad it's there :)
yes, I invite photos that I like to the pool to try to advertise the group :)
Usually I see those invites and then join the group. Which is why I'm surprised that my photo was there but I wasn't a member of the group. I must have f*'ed up that time :)
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joined the rain group jojonas... but I no longer live in rainy seattle, wa or portland, or area. I live in a drought zone!
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I created a Flickr account in 2010 but never really used it until last year. I don't belong to any groups. Wasn't even sure how they worked. I don't know why it hasn't occurred to me until now, but maybe I should join the Filmwasters group!
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Wait, there's a Filmwasters group? :o :P :-\
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Yep, it's used for the Blog roll. No discussions and you need to be Leon approved :)
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Oh there, I found it. I guess it's not indexed to show up in a straight search...
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I tried to join once and never got approved. Now I can't find it, but I don't add my photos to many groups anymore the allure of views and faves has left me. I am striving to be the Kyūzō of my own photo hobby.
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I changed when flickr changed. I unfollowed just about everybody, as it was cluttering up my main page. I stopped adding to many groups because I always seem to have trouble with moderation. So I abandoned almost every group. I often delete all my favorites as well.
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Oh there, I found it. I guess it's not indexed to show up in a straight search...
For the Lazy ones, here's the direct link
https://www.flickr.com/groups/filmwasters/ (https://www.flickr.com/groups/filmwasters/)
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I used to post a lot on Flickr, but not so much anymore. I didn't like the changes to the site, but I stuck with it until I decided to post more on Tumblr. I found that I got more positive feedback from Tumblr (not that I didn't get any on Flickr, I tend to post pictures of cars and this was received better on Tumblr and not so much on Flickr).
I may keep my Flickr page for now but probably won't add much to it. I let my pro account expire and won't renew it anytime soon.
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talking about tubmlr, as it says on the flickr tumblr group all shots that come into the pool are also transferred to the fw tumblr account http://filmwasters.tumblr.com (http://filmwasters.tumblr.com)
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I am member of far too many groups. I try to cull the number now and then, but they seem to reproduce without my (conscious) involvement ;) Admin if two, but they are very narrow in focus, not of interest if you are not already a member.
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Seriously?? They changed it again!!?? Now there are no group links on the feed page and the preview thumbnails are stuck on top of the images. What the heck!!??
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I have to say the home feed page thing I don't mind. Once you get used to the fact that names and info were on the top and now they are on the bottom...
Camera roll feature is useless to me, and just to happens to be automatically directed when I click "you" as I usually do. 1 click goes to 2 for me now.
Groups are missing a lot of features.
My page itself looks terrible. Not at all happy with how they are presented.
I'm considering leaving flickr. But to go where... Ipernity is meh. Instagram depresses me, facebook steals your images, photobucket is like the smelly kid in the corner no one wants to be around, 500px requires paid subscription...
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seems a lot of polaroid shooters went to twitter? twitter is nice but it sucks for organising and looking up photos.
there were groups links on the feed page?
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Yes, on teh right hand side of the photo feed, there would be a couple of previews from groups you belong to. It was nice to just click on it to go see what was happening on the Microfilm group or the 120 group, etc. They are making the web interface more and more like the mobile app interface which is weird since the screen geometry and user actions are very different in the two environments.
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I no longer care, and I found a workaround to display Recent Discussions 8)
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I read the blog post about the big changes but everything looks the same to me so far... but in the preview shots it just looks like a bunch of little squares? flickr defnly has identity issues and though it's my primary uploading site, it's always felt like a beta site, constantly changing and trying to figure out what it wants to be. and half the stuff doesn't work properly, like the maps thing.
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Film in Chinatown
Chinatown captured on film.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/2455778@N20/ (http://www.flickr.com/groups/2455778@N20/)
Ah, so you must have been the one who invited me in :P
I'm a "member" of 75-odd groups, but mostly I'm just a leech ... I submit photos when they fit the theme only so that I can get views and faves. I don't even read the discussions :-[ But when I'm Googling a problem and come upon a helpful Flickr thread (which is quite often actually), I will sometimes join in.
You don't look 75 years old in your avitar :D
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They have also added an auto-tagging feature. This is irritating because it puts a bunch of meaningless tags on a photo like "outdoor" or "depth of field" or "plant". I have my own tag ontology that I use and I don't really care to have it cluttered up with random stuff. I can see for digipics adding exif into the tags, but for film that has been scanned, I think people are more interested in the camera, the film, the development and maybe the camera settings. If you really want to find a million photos of "plants", use Google.
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All I can think of right now is this
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tasks.png)
Check this out
http://parkorbird.flickr.com/ (http://parkorbird.flickr.com/)
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One of my favorite XKCD comics :D
Did Flickr actually develop that in response to the cartoon, or was the cartoon a parody of the Flickr service? Basically, which came first, the chicken or the National Park?
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I wonder what the tags will say when I upload my "I'm leaving flickr in favour of _____" image.
Also my final straw came here:
(http://i1250.photobucket.com/albums/hh525/nownownownow/Screen%20Shot%202015-05-08%20at%206.22.44%20PM_zpsneyjnclf.png)
Nice little complain button in the bottom left. A nice little f*ck you to fact that they know people are going to complain and generally not be happy about their changes. Clearly some designers are bitter on their end.
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One of my favorite XKCD comics :D
Did Flickr actually develop that in response to the cartoon, or was the cartoon a parody of the Flickr service? Basically, which came first, the chicken or the National Park?
The cartoon actually came first. Then the engineers at flickr who saw this thought "hey! We can do that!" And coded the site to prove their might. But I played with it yesterday and it proves to be not all that great. I submitted a picture of a plastic lawn flamingo and it said it wasn't a bird. Then I sent a picture of pigeons taking flight from a lamp post and it said it wasn't a bird. Then I sent a picture of our pet dove in a cardboard easter chocolate box (she loved all the little paper strips in it) and it still said it wasn't a bird!
So I guess it only works for full birds and not partial ones or multiple ones....
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Changes appeared yesterday for me. Not tons different, mostly the compressed photo grouping. The autotags dont seem to happen if you type your own tags in, or maybe my polaroids are too confusing for the system. I can see that they were going for a slightly "cleaner" look, though a lot of the inner page still look like flickr two years ago, like "recent activity", which is fine by me. They really need to fix the shitty map. It has gotten worse in the past few months. Particularly Japan, where I can't zoom in anymore and a lot of the locations are now incorrect (probably because you can't zoom in and it generalizes).
What kind of bothers me is the focus on top to bottom...like nothing is on the side. The groups beta is a good example, a line of photos on top, a line of discussions is below. I'm sure this is built for mobile devices, but it all seems very constrained and over simplified on a computer. Feels kinds of like my old Richard Powers website before I learned to use tables, back in 1999.
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Apparently, this is classed as 'food'.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6196/6086779860_abac2e129c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/agSkAm)110827_neo4_07 (https://flic.kr/p/agSkAm) by Sandeha Lynch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sandeha/), on Flickr
I've asked for a single button to remove all auto-tags. And that went onto page 27 of their complaints thread.
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a lot of mine were tagged as drawing, and photo border. I actually do want a auto tag feature, but I want one that is assigned to a album. say you tag a album with "B&W" "portrait" and when you add photo to it to automatically add "B&W" "portrait" tags to each photo.
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Just logged in to upload for the weekend thread
I don't like it, autotag sucks and i'd just got used to the last "beta"
I'm seriously considering self hosting in the future
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Oh well... at least it's pretty good at figuring out if the picture was taken indoors or out ::)
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They don't make it at flickr. No mercy. They wanted to get back the "what`s app" kids, had a short success for a few months and are tumbling down again fast and furiously, trying and messing up everything. The rescuing "/?details=1" addition for the stream page now has to be added manually also for your own stream, it was available until yesterday at least for your own stream with one click on the "edit" button, now gone. They don't understand nothing, brave new world. Hubsypubsydumdidum, Ms. CEO Mayer. But for 300 million/year I would sing "my bonny is over the ocean" ten times a day. At least. After twelve days I would be a millionaire. So beware! ;D
Stats: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/flickr.com (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/flickr.com)
A pity they don't show anymore the stats for former years. They once were on rank 20 or so, iirc?
It's an old story, folks. You get nothing for nothing. Flickr as all big iinternet services only makes money with us, with our data. We can't rely on anything that's paid with our data. Everybody needs more and more and if it becomes less, they die. I give less and less. If that shouldn't work anymore someday, so what? Nobody can buy my soul. I'm not Dr. Faustus. Only for twelve days.....
I guess they can't do much at flickr, times are changing. Their trials are looking so helpless. What's app and facebook rule the world, but without me. I'm no loss for them and they are not for me. I save the f-word for much more important things.
Love and peace for everybody .....
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I uploaded a photo to Flickr just now and came up against the new look. To be honest (which, incidentally, means the same as "TBH" in case you were wondering) I just thought, "Oh they've changed it again. Ho hum." and didn't even bother looking into what that meant particularly. I fell out of love with the place the last time round and now just use it to host pictures for linking to from Filmwasters.
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Apparently, this is classed as 'food'.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6196/6086779860_abac2e129c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/agSkAm)110827_neo4_07 (https://flic.kr/p/agSkAm) by Sandeha Lynch (https://www.flickr.com/photos/sandeha/), on Flickr
I've asked for a single button to remove all auto-tags. And that went onto page 27 of their complaints thread.
that's obviously doughnuts
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a lot of mine were tagged as drawing, and photo border. I actually do want a auto tag feature, but I want one that is assigned to a album. say you tag a album with "B&W" "portrait" and when you add photo to it to automatically add "B&W" "portrait" tags to each photo.
I use Lightroom to tag all my shit
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Oh well... at least it's pretty good at figuring out if the picture was taken indoors or out ::)
yeah i got my first auto-tag yesterday. A very clever "outdoors".
The only reason I continue to use flickr is a lack of decent alternatives, and I have like 6000 photos there already.
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At least, for the disgruntled ones, you can now bulk download all your images in one go.
A handy thing for those who use it as a backup. But since I only upload resized images, it's not very helpful to me as a backup.
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BOOM! notes on photos can be seen again :)
great for stuff like this:
(https://c3.staticflickr.com/4/3214/2971532482_a4cfb5986f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/5wzT5E)C-41 home development (https://flic.kr/p/5wzT5E) by Dick Claésson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ordfabriken/), on Flickr
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Hey! How'd you get into my kitchen????
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Thanks for flagging this topic up; I must remember to go onto my bit of Flickr and delete my photos / account, etc.
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At least you're not hosting them on the face place. They're twisting people's arm to force them to ditch their old program and switch to the new one or else they will delete everything...
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Thanks for flagging this topic up; I must remember to go onto my bit of Flickr and delete my photos / account, etc.
:(
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Thanks for flagging this topic up; I must remember to go onto my bit of Flickr and delete my photos / account, etc.
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Yup, not sure why you'd delete a free account. Personally I find lots that's positive about Flickr even though my usage has changed alongside its format adjustments.
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Thanks for flagging this topic up; I must remember to go onto my bit of Flickr and delete my photos / account, etc.
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Yup, not sure why you'd delete a free account. Personally I find lots that's positive about Flickr even though my usage has changed alongside its format adjustments.
I just don't go on there much at all these days. It's months since I posted anything and most of the "groups" I joined are mostly moribund in terms of activity other than posting / storing photos. I'm not short of storage options for what little output I have as I've just built my own website and I'm going to buy a 2TB hard drive. I also back up what I scan to disk (and I have the negatives / slides).
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If you get a new drive, just make sure it's not a Seagate. They don't have the reputation for reliability that they once had with some people seeing them crash after only a few weeks of use.
It's said that the best ones these days are from Hitachi.
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I just don't go on there much at all these days. It's months since I posted anything and most of the "groups" I joined are mostly moribund in terms of activity other than posting / storing photos. I'm not short of storage options for what little output I have as I've just built my own website and I'm going to buy a 2TB hard drive. I also back up what I scan to disk (and I have the negatives / slides).
I do all of that too, and the groups are not what they were, but it's still a principal collection point for many and that has a value for me.
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If you get a new drive, just make sure it's not a Seagate. They don't have the reputation for reliability that they once had with some people seeing them crash after only a few weeks of use.
It's said that the best ones these days are from Hitachi.
Thanks for the tip. When I had a PC, I had a Seagate and, although it was a bit whirry / noisy it lasted okay but I never felt 100% safe. However, I have a G-Technology one just now and will probably get another - or a maybe LaCie.
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If you get a new drive, just make sure it's not a Seagate. They don't have the reputation for reliability that they once had with some people seeing them crash after only a few weeks of use.
It's said that the best ones these days are from Hitachi.
Thanks for the tip. When I had a PC, I had a Seagate and, although it was a bit whirry / noisy it lasted okay but I never felt 100% safe. However, I have a G-Technology one just now and will probably get another - or a maybe LaCie.
I've seen a lot of external drives die (belonging to customers who's data is commercially and clinically important and who should know better). I always recommend you get a RAID and use two drives of different types. That way you can be pretty safe is one dies. Not a perfect solution, but better than relying on one drive of any make. It's what I do and it's paid off for me. I also do another backup as well, just in case.
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Paul, be aware that G-Technology is just Western Digital in a fancy box. And the last time I pried a LaCie open I think it had a Hitachi drive in it...
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Or if you're in a DIY mood, I once saw a video of a guy who built his own custom enclosure for video use (and it was pretty wicked).
He built a box in which he put a USB 3.0 hub, two USB3 to SATA adapters and two USB3 memory card readers. He put both drives as mirroring RAID so that the data would be safe. Since he was on USB3, the transfer speeds were pretty mindblowing.
I've had plans to do something similar for some time, except with a twist. I would use 3 hard disks in a stripping RAID with parity configuration and only one card reader (since I don't need to import that many cards anyway). That would give me speeds that are next to internal drive fast and still keep my files secure.
But that's just nerdiness from my part ;D
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I'm pretty much sold on SSDs if noone can convince me otherwise.
when I replace my current back up drive that's what I'm planning to get atleast.
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Jonas, I would be very reluctant to put important data on an SSD. I had a Samsung SSD as a system disk on my computer and one day it just died. The computer was not able to see that there was a disk connected at all, it was totally gone. I'm not sure if it's possible to save any data from a dead SSD. From a physical disc it is at least possible to save most of the data unless it is a total crash, and they occure very seldom.
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Or if you're in a DIY mood, I once saw a video of a guy who built his own custom enclosure for video use (and it was pretty wicked).
He built a box in which he put a USB 3.0 hub, two USB3 to SATA adapters and two USB3 memory card readers. He put both drives as mirroring RAID so that the data would be safe. Since he was on USB3, the transfer speeds were pretty mindblowing.
I've had plans to do something similar for some time, except with a twist. I would use 3 hard disks in a stripping RAID with parity configuration and only one card reader (since I don't need to import that many cards anyway). That would give me speeds that are next to internal drive fast and still keep my files secure.
But that's just nerdiness from my part ;D
Thanks for this Francois but (and please don't take this as me being in any way critical) I haven't got a clue what any of that means :o
I have never been a tecchie and doubt I ever will be. I've heard of RAID but wouldn't know one if I tripped over one. The problem is that if I go to a computer hardware shop, they could sell me anything and I wouldn't know whether it was good, bad or indifferent. I've found my way round a Mac and it does the job my old PC used to do but, for me, a lot quicker / more efficiently and it takes up a hell of a lot less space. I have a 1TB G-Tech portable hard drive attached to it and I'm going to start uploading photos I want to keep from the disks I burned that were originally stored on my PC (and Seagate) hard drive. I'll buy some more capacity though, as I doubt 1TB will be enough.
Apparently, there was a way to move the data direct from PC to the new Mac but, despite people telling me what kit I needed and how to do it, I never figured it out and ended up burning CDs before binning my old, slow and perpetually crashing, PC.
I'll retain the CDs and have their content on a hard drive. I've thought about using Flickr for additional storage but (and I can't explain why) it just doesn't appeal to me. Maybe it's all the stuff around them trying to claim rights over photos posted there or the uncertainty over Yahoo's impending sale. However, between negs, CDs and a hard drive, I'm hoping that'll be enough to protect my little collection - at least for now.
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Get a mac.
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LD: you could also use either Google drive or Dropbox. They have a little program that looks like a regular folder. You just open it and copy your stuff in it to make it land on some protected server somewhere. As simple as it can get.
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Get a mac.
Got one! :)
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My account is still live but I haven't posted there in years. In the mean time I'm kind of hooked on Instagram.
Has anyone else made that switch? Or switched to something else entirely (or nothing at all)?
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I know a lot of people went to iPernity a while back... I just stayed out of laziness.
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Or if you're in a DIY mood, I once saw a video of a guy who built his own custom enclosure for video use (and it was pretty wicked).
He built a box in which he put a USB 3.0 hub, two USB3 to SATA adapters and two USB3 memory card readers. He put both drives as mirroring RAID so that the data would be safe. Since he was on USB3, the transfer speeds were pretty mindblowing.
I've had plans to do something similar for some time, except with a twist. I would use 3 hard disks in a stripping RAID with parity configuration and only one card reader (since I don't need to import that many cards anyway). That would give me speeds that are next to internal drive fast and still keep my files secure.
But that's just nerdiness from my part ;D
Flower Foul! Too many RAID references in one post. If you are wondering, yes... one is the limit.
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/2/1607/26132625903_55b812f730_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FPfxez)
Y44-Konica160-010 (https://flic.kr/p/FPfxez) by James Harr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/harrlequin/), on Flickr
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Unless you're in reality thinking about bug spray ;) :o :o :o :o ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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I love SSD but only as a work drive, for storage, not so sure about that.
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My account is still live but I haven't posted there in years. In the mean time I'm kind of hooked on Instagram.
Has anyone else made that switch? Or switched to something else entirely (or nothing at all)?
I have not made that switch, they serve completely different purposes for me. Instagram has low resolution images that you can't zoom on, Flickr can store tons of images at full resolution and I can adjust permissions.
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I love SSD but only as a work drive, for storage, not so sure about that.
For storage, the good old drives are now pretty reliable, pretty fast and most of all cheaper.
And they have those new helium filled drives that are faster and quieter...
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I love SSD but only as a work drive, for storage, not so sure about that.
And they have those new helium filled drives that are faster and quieter...
and lighter? ;D
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Instagram has low resolution images that you can't zoom on, Flickr can store tons of images at full resolution and I can adjust permissions.
my instagram photos looks crap compared to flickr, twitter and last check facebook. Flickr store your photo in multiple resolutions. upload high res and it makes lower res files as well.
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Okay, valid advice on disks here. Thanks. A bit sad because I just love how silent they are! :P ;D
Ipernity? I tried checking some groups last week and man does it look dead. Flickr seems like bustling with discussions compared to it.
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Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. http://petapixel.com/2016/07/25/verizon-flickr-via-4-8b-yahoo-acquisition/ (http://petapixel.com/2016/07/25/verizon-flickr-via-4-8b-yahoo-acquisition/)
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mmm...
At least it wasn't bought by KFC :o
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Could have been worse, could have been the Daily
Hate Fail Mail who bought it.
If that'd happened, I would have been straight on there deleting my entire account.
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Or the National Enquirer ;D
Just imagine them adding a picture of Elvis in every photo you post there ;)
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Reviving an old thread here
If you're using Flickr, it's definitely time to change your password!
I've been reading the news this morning and yet another block fell on Yahoo and Flickr... and they weren't quick to give the news, something that I find even more worrisome than the rest. Back in 2014, they had a massive security breach with 500 million passwords stolen. And it took them all this time to get around to tell people that they should change their passwords!
Talk about efficiency...
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I can never remember mine anyway so if anyone else out there knows it, could they please let me know.
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;D ;D ;D
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Have you seen the new flickr?
I don't get the promo bar on the right and have all the pictures that I follow in two columns.
Neat!
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I'm still with the new old. just recently coming back to flickr after not really having the time since summer. feels like I've fallen out of the groove with looking at photos...
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yesssss
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Has anybody noticed that since we have the new screen fewer of the pictures we post get commented on or liked?
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Reviving an old thread here...
I noticed something lately on Flickr and I want to know if I'm the only one to whom this happens?
I sometimes (well, more often than expected) get a message that somebody is following my photos or just likes one of the pictures I posted. Then out of curiosity check out that person's profile only to find out it's from a woman who's portfolio site is a sex service site...
So, am I the only one or is this a new trend in spamming?
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Reviving an old thread here...
I noticed something lately on Flickr and I want to know if I'm the only one to whom this happens?
I sometimes (well, more often than expected) get a message that somebody is following my photos or just likes one of the pictures I posted. Then out of curiosity check out that person's profile only to find out it's from a woman who's portfolio site is a sex service site...
So, am I the only one or is this a new trend in spamming?
That just happened to me for the first time yesterday. It was a woman who just joined Flickr this month and has a few semi nude photos and a link to a web site. She's following me but I didn't reciprocate, she doesn't seem to be shooting film. Probably just using Flickr to advertise her web site.
https://www.flickr.com/people/152566785@N06/ (https://www.flickr.com/people/152566785@N06/)
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Be also. Had this happen.
https://www.flickr.com/people/151279164@N08/ (https://www.flickr.com/people/151279164@N08/)
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Me too.
I've also had other people pushing their goods/website.
I just block them. Their comment/fav or whatever then disappears and they can't do it again.
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Seems to be an emerging trend. Sort of odd that it is coming up now considering how old Flickr is. I guess Instagram and Snapchat are saturated?
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I think they must have begun cleaning it up. Two of the people who liked me now have a 404 page...
But this sure was a weird experience and I'm happy that I'm not the only one who had these!
This sure was a weird experience and such a party pooper. I went from YAY! someone likes my photos to Cute girl to WTF to crap just another spammer... all in less than 5 minutes...
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I don't get that. I'm feeling left out! ???
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Well, I must admit that at first sight it's definitely worth a look.... We don't have girls that look like that around here!
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Well, I must admit that at first sight it's definitely worth a look.... We don't have girls that look like that around here!
Steady! With that last post this thread suddenly feels like something you'd read on a photography forum :-)
For the record I get this all the time on Instaspam and sometimes, but less frequently, on Flickr too.
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But on the up side, I did gain a few real followers :)
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I've just had six more within an hour. Maybe I'll change my profile to female amd maybe they'll go away - but I could end up getting solicitations from men.
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I don't know many girls on Flickr so I can't ask if they get similar"fans".
I got another one a few days ago and reading the titles of the pictures, the intent was pretty clear.
She even claimed she liked cooking naked! I guess she isn't a big fan of bacon ;D
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I think I know why a bunch of us are getting these requests now, they're using our "following" list. I won't name anyone but I noticed my most recent one is following a few people that I am following, including fellow Filmwasters. They must have a way of automatically following everyone on your list.
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Worst thing is that I don't know of any way to stop this....
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Worst thing is that I don't know of any way to stop this....
I do, I just did it.
I deleted my account.
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I haven't seen any more followers like that for a few weeks now, I wonder if Flickr shut them down. It's seems like they all came at once and then went away.
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I haven't seen any more followers like that for a few weeks now, I wonder if Flickr shut them down. It's seems like they all came at once and then went away.
I've had followers and favs and an invitation to join some FilthyFlickr group. They just kept coming. I reported several but it makes no difference. I'm sure Flickr has the capability of limiting accounts until they are verified to stop this sort of thing but if they can't be bothered then neither can I.
It was useful as an image host but there are other options. I can still browse other peoples images and groups etc. without an account. I can't 'follow' anyone but I didn't follow many anyway and I can always make a link to someone's photosteam if I want. So I don't think I'll miss it.
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I must admit that it's been rather quiet on the spam front lately...
But I know that just saying this will make them all come back like hordes of zombies looking for some fresh brains. ::)
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More on the flickr thing, here's s help to get forum code out of the flickr app (you copy the shortlink out of the app snd into this site)
http://tools.rackonly.com/ (http://tools.rackonly.com/)
Would make my life easier -if my particular iOS wasn't the one with the copy bug :p
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It looks like the share button is gone completely from the web UI. I am back to using the developer tools in Chrome to drill in to the page elements to get the link. >:(
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It looks like the share button is gone completely from the web UI. I am back to using the developer tools in Chrome to drill in to the page elements to get the link. >:(
I still have a share button but most of the options are missing like the one I use, BB Code. Maybe they are just making changes or updating something. This is the only option it gives me:
https://flic.kr/p/212YqJi
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Web interface seems to be normal for me (via Firefox). Share button, BBCode, everything seems as it was.
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Yeah they must have been doing a sneaky update. Everything back to "normal" now.
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Just reviving an old thread since it's entirely related
I don't know if you've seen this but Flickr has once again been sold and is now uniting with Smugmug?
https://www.smugmug.com/together/ (https://www.smugmug.com/together/)
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Not a single film camera in their little promo video (unless you count Instax).
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Not really surprising when you think about it.
But I'm really wondering what it's going to change on the long run.
I've never been to smugmug so I'll have to investigate.
But at least it's not a property of Facebook like Instagram.... Or at least not that I know of.
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the same date as GDPR, I'm kind of curious if there's any connection ;)
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Well... I must admit it would have been a bit awkward for The Zuck to come out bragging about buying a new toy for his empire...
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So who owns SmugMug? And Flickr must have REALLY been a cash vortex if Yahoo unloaded it so quickly. And again, assuming SmugMug isn't owned by some huge InstaFaceTwit, I'm curious to see the sale price and how much Yahoo lost just on the sale. And what exorbitant price SmugMug paid *just* for a few million usernames and data ;D
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So who owns SmugMug? And Flickr must have REALLY been a cash vortex if Yahoo unloaded it so quickly. And again, assuming SmugMug isn't owned by some huge InstaFaceTwit, I'm curious to see the sale price and how much Yahoo lost just on the sale. And what exorbitant price SmugMug paid *just* for a few million usernames and data ;D
It's privately owned. More info here: https://www.thephoblographer.com/2018/04/23/smugmug-buys-flickr-enliven-photo-sharing-community/ (https://www.thephoblographer.com/2018/04/23/smugmug-buys-flickr-enliven-photo-sharing-community/)
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All I know is that Flickr used to be owned by Verizon. They probably had one of those wtf moments after they had bought the Yahoo group... They probably bought it off eBay at 2am after having had a few drinks ;D
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All I know is that Flickr used to be owned by Verizon. They probably had one of those wtf moments after they had bought the Yahoo group... They probably bought it off eBay at 2am after having had a few drinks ;D
Sometimes I do that.
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All I know is that Flickr used to be owned by Verizon. They probably had one of those wtf moments after they had bought the Yahoo group... They probably bought it off eBay at 2am after having had a few drinks ;D
Sometimes I do that.
Reminds me of the "Alexa, buy me something from Whole Foods" meme ;D https://i.imgur.com/mqbmv0d.png